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SERVICE REPORT 2005 : WATCHTOWER FEB 1ST 2006

by BluesBrother in

i have had a quick look and found no references to this, so - here goes..as in the mag we picked up on sunday.. worldwide % increase over 2004 = 1.3%.

memorial partakers 8524 (compared to 8570 in 2004).

most european and nth american lands show pretty static figs - britain 1% increase, canada 0%, germany 0%, france 1%, usa 0%... but spare a thought for the inhabitants of zambia where 1 person in 90 is a reporting witness, must be hell going down to the local market!

observador

Hello quango,

welcome to the forum. It's really wonderful to have some of "Jehovah's people" exchanging viewpoints here.

The classic example is a 50 something sister in my congregation - divorced. She is very zealous & very bright - university educated with a very demanding job.

But, brother, you're not following the "Slave's" direction... you sound like praising the sister for having a university education. Didn't you know that having a university education is bad and goes against "God's purpose" for the "true christians"?

Occasionally she can be quite critical & many of my colleagues regard her as a bit of a loose cannon.

So, she can be "quite critical" even though she's in "Jehovah's perfect organization"?!!! Humnh.... I thought we were the "happiest people on earth".

I fight her corner in my body of elders - for one thing , often her criticisms have justification and we can learn from that.

Brother, why do you have to fight? Are you not going against "Jehovah's arrangements" there? Don't fight, my brother, Jehovah will take care of it; on Jehovah's due time.

Also I can't believe you're saying we actually "can learn from that".... I thought we could just learn from Jehovah's directed "faithfull and discrete slave" class. If she's complaining, it must be Satan talking through her. Remember the example of Peter?

Secondly , my wife goes home & can moan at me - this sister goes home to an empty house & has no-one.

But wait a minute, brother. Don't we have an abundance of sisters and brothers and aren't those who brought us to the "troof" our spiritual fathers and mothers? Why is she alone in such a "worldwide christian brotherhood"?

Let the beating continue until morale improves.

The danger is that sisters like her can end up the "Blondies" of the future.

Now we're talking!!!

Observador.

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Confirmed News about Printing in Brooklyn

by stillajwexelder in

tonight we had a letter read "to all congregations in the united states".

i will paraphrase.

the graphics department has moved to walkill as from nov 30th 3005. this includes all artwork prepartion and other associated departments.

observador

What I would like to see confirmed is the number 1500. This is the number of bethelites that allegedly are being sent home.
Observador.

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New Blood Letter dated January 3, 2006

by Gary1914 in

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there is a new blood letter from the society dated january 3, 2006. it is to be read to all congregations on january 30, 2006. it is six pages long and is to replace the directives on blood outlined in 1995. it was accompanied by a note that said that the old directives were to be destroyed.

i tried to upload the pages but i just don't know how.

i don't have any more time as i have to get to work.

observador

I apologize for confusing the new British Blood Card with the US letter.
Yes, the US letter had already being posted. It SEEMS like the US is not getting a new card for 2006.

So, in short:
Here's the British Blood Card: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/104206/1.ashx
and here is the US blood letter: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/104091/1.ashx

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New Blood Letter dated January 3, 2006

by Gary1914 in

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there is a new blood letter from the society dated january 3, 2006. it is to be read to all congregations on january 30, 2006. it is six pages long and is to replace the directives on blood outlined in 1995. it was accompanied by a note that said that the old directives were to be destroyed.

i tried to upload the pages but i just don't know how.

i don't have any more time as i have to get to work.

observador

bttt

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Followup on activity at NYC Bethel

by startingover in

i posted something a few days ago on friends regarding printing still being done in nyc.

i have some new info and am putting it under scandals because it doesn't move so fast.. i have family members that just returned from a trip to nyc.

they did the tours in brooklyn, walkill and patterson.

observador

I can't confirm the info above, but it is consistent with the article on the Dec 1, 2005 Watchtower.
The article is titled "A proof of love, faith and obedience". Unfortunately, I don't have it in English.
The article discuss the "dedication" of the new facilities in Wallkill, NY. In the middle of the article, there is this question: "But why was the factory moved from Brooklyn to Wallkill?". You won't believe the answer to that question: basically "simplification". Here's what it says (and I translate):
"The main reason was to simplify the printing and expedition of the publications by centralizing operations in just one place".
The other reason, they say, was that the 2 new printers were too big to install in Brooklyn. I don't buy it, though.
It would be nice if someone who have the mags in English could put the scans up somewhere for folks here to analyse them.

Observador.

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New Blood Letter dated January 3, 2006

by Gary1914 in

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friends

there is a new blood letter from the society dated january 3, 2006. it is to be read to all congregations on january 30, 2006. it is six pages long and is to replace the directives on blood outlined in 1995. it was accompanied by a note that said that the old directives were to be destroyed.

i tried to upload the pages but i just don't know how.

i don't have any more time as i have to get to work.

observador

Yes, someone has posted the letter along with the Blood Card itself, BUT it was for Britain.

The scans are here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/104206/1.ashx

We'd really love to have the letter and blood card for the USA.

Are you in the US?

If you have the scans but don't know how to host it, so that people on this board can view them, PM me.

Observador. edited to fix link ~ Scully

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Gillet vs Watchtower!

by Atlantis in

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watchtower bible & tract society of pennsylvania, inc., watchtower bible & tract society of new york, inc., watchtower bible & tract society of florida, inc., the west north miami congregation of jehovah's witnesses, inc., francois jn denis and maria nunes, .

in the district court of appeal of florida .

gillet v. watchtower bible & tract society case no.

observador

My favorite part is this one here:

"After the meeting ended, the members got into their cars to travel to the areas where they would engage in these activities. When Nunes, who was parked in the Gillets’ driveway, backed out, she knocked Hilda Gillet into the roadway and where she was struck by an oncoming car."

It'd be funny if it wasn't tragic.

Now, write my words: if cases like that become more and more common in the US with outcome unfavorable to WT, watch out for all that "warm brotherly love" of the "true christians" soon disappear.
Watch for WT sending instructions to the congs to make the "brothers" to sign papers where they indicate they are not "agents" of the WT. Watch!

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My website: www.reexamine.org

by reexaminer in

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greetings.. i have started a project that i hope will stay online for times indefinate, even to times indefinate.

you can find it at www.reexamine.org .. i started working on it in october and it is still a work in progress, however because of the shut down of the website located at http://quotes.watchtower.ca i felt that i should release the site in "as-is" condition, instead of waiting until it was completely finished.. currently, there isn't a lot of content in the 'wiki' section of the website.

hopefully in the next few days and weeks that will change, however there are still programming issues that i have to work out before that can happen.

observador

Nice! Keep up the good work.

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WTS vs Quotes: Requiem for a Research Web Site

by Quotes in

in compliance with the terms of a settlement agreement, my information and research web site, http://quotes.watchtower.ca, is now "dark".

the domain "watchtower.ca" has been transferred to wts (i assume they will have it pointing to borg.org watchtower.org asap).

my copies of the site have been destroyed, the files deleted, and my wt library cd has been destroyed, in accordance with the settlement agreement which will afford a "discontinuance" of their suit against me.

observador

Dearest Ken
The Watchtower Society has spent a lifetime setting up this glorious organization as a mirrored replica of, not Christianity, but rather the Jewish system.
I want you, Ken, to know with what proximity you came recently to getting your reward.
If the Watchtower’s brainwash had succeeded in convincing me that we are not in the Christian era, but rather in the Watchtower’s repeat Jewish era, then I, viewing you for what you are, an apostate, would have zealously completed my national obligation against your skinny carcass.
If you are sitting behind your big oak desk right now, then lift your skinny arm and reach into your drawer. Extract your bible. Read Deuteronomy 13:12-17 and see how I view your Satanic attempt to make me serve the Watchtower IDOL.
Read Leviticus 27:29b and take a deep breath knowing you have fewer of them remaining today then you had when first we met.
I do not need to lift my hand against you, for “Already the ax is lying at the root of the trees“. . .Matthew 3:10
Your time has almost arrived. Don’t choke on your sandwich.

Thanks, apocalypse, for sharing the above with us. I am copying and pasting it here just to show that some leaders don't seem to understand that requiring and getting the obedience from their followers is one thing; it's not very hard. Now, obtaining respect and love from them is quite a different thing. That's what really counts.

The above just shows how many enemies the WT has managed to make and how close by they live.

Observador.

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Deleted Then Asked to close With Prayer!

by Blueblades in

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observador

It is to you Jehovah that we asked to have approach to your high and lofty throne of undeserved kindness upon undeserved kindness, you the one whom we are devoted to, we thank you for all your loving kindness and many mercies and the way you forgive all of us in a large way in the name of our Lord and savior Jesus we address you Amen.

Blueblades,
you were not one of those "brothers" whose "amen" would come after 10 minutes and several yawnings from the audience, were you?