stupid rules list....
i will start.... number 1) two people have to witness a sin before it is reported to the superior authorities....making me the org the last word in all areas.. the most stupid rule gets to post it once the gb has judged it the most stupid?
maybe simon will be one of the judges..... breeze
OMG - you reminded me... Smurfs. When they were popular, JW Urban Legends, were circulating that they were demonized. I forgot. Oh, and "Scooby Doo". I was a lucky JW kid... my parents would allow us to watch the cartoons that came out at X-Mas, etc. but we couldn't tell anyone.
Weird rule - counting your time... hmmm starting when you first "talk" to someone, after "amen" at the hall, etc. Big discussions and judgements over this one. Do you count the "coffee break" and if so, how long????
stupid rules list....
i will start.... number 1) two people have to witness a sin before it is reported to the superior authorities....making me the org the last word in all areas.. the most stupid rule gets to post it once the gb has judged it the most stupid?
maybe simon will be one of the judges..... breeze
If you have a beard (CANADA), you can't serve as a MS or elder. Some of the nicest brothers I knew had beards... come to think of it, throughout my whole JW career, I only knew 3 that "bucked" the rules and wore a beard... damn, come to think of it, I think they were bikers (driving their Harley's to the KH). LOL :)
since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.
i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.
while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.
This is my own personal thought and belief... its "developing and changing" but its what I've settled on. Sometimes, I'm not sure what I "believe", but I know what I don't believe. I do believe and trust in a joint human conscienousness. For example, all religions teach "life after death", they differ but they all agree that "something" survives. Now, whether we have an energy, life force with our "spirit", that leaves once the body dies, we could. I tend to lean towards evolution, but I don't discount a life force that keeps returning or being used in different forms. Life is full of cycles - rain, weather, etc. and I like to think that "life" is a cycle also. Sometimes I think all "God" is, is the miracle of this life force that works through everything from germs to us, and since no one really understands or can explain it, we (as humans) worship it.
Hmmm... now that I'm reading this in print, sounds kinda stupid.
one of jw "beliefs" that was and still is most confusing to me is the condition of married persons after the resurrection.
in particular, if one marriage partner dies before the big a and then gets resurrected.. its surprising how many jw's hold sacred their own private interpretation on this.. generally i found that if the marriage had been a happy one, a lot of jw's believe if the surviving marriage partner does not remarry, then they will end up back with their dead-but-back-again married partner after the resurrection.
in a normal sexual marriage relationship.. if the survivng partner does remarry however, the the old chestnut gets rolled out about people in the resurrection "will neither get married or be given in marriage.
I use to get the car group riled up over this one... always one in the group that would state "Jehovah will take care of the physical/emotional needs" - they'll be resurrected without this need.
OK - soooo, then why didn't "He" fix it so we don't get sexual desires until AFTER marriage - hmmm, would wipe out "fornication". Why would these one's be "resurrected" less than human and open up a WHOLE bunch of questions???? Since they couldn't pro-create, I assume they'll be slaves, doing the work while the rest get to "live in perfection".
Just seems to me that if Jehovah is going to create these ones without desires, he should have done it to everyone in the first place - no free will, no sin, no one "knowing" the difference.
Personally, I don't believe any of it anymore... but when I use to, I always believed that scripture only refered to the "annointed".
i was talking to my sister yesterday, who spent the weekend with our still active parents.
over the weekend, they all had dinner with another couple, who were sharing some of the "latest news.
" i am getting this second hand, but my sister is excellent at remembering exactly what was said.
Oops, don't forget the "Peace & Security" that comes first, before the downfall of false religion. I use to wonder about the "marriage of the Lamb" in heaven with all the annointed (Revelation Climax). No one has a clue whether the ones in heaven participate in the slaughter of armegeddon, or whether some of the "annointed" survive into the New System. I use to imagine that they would all die (by God's hand, like Enoch) before the Great Tribulation, so the "marriage" could take place. The "time table can get soooo confusing".
I just remember when I was a kid, I'd go through spells of waking up in the morning wondering if Armegeddon happened in the night. I use to be fascinated by the picture showing the flood, leaving all the women and children that the angels knocked-up, to die, while they just took off. Nice huh? I could never wrap my head around the idea that God kills babies and children.
i guess he must have been unrepentant because he was df'd.
child molestors stay in good standing.
i guess that is because only children are hurt and the whole congregation could have suffered (especially the elders) from anthrax.. http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/local/scn-sa-threat2oct17,0,6130576.story man gets six months for anthrax threat.
It seems that it was pretty public... can't have a bad light cast on Jehovah's name. Who knows whether he was "repentant", he sounds pretty messed up, so he definitely can't be a witness. Hmmm, seems those who spoke out about child-abuse and made it public were df'd as well. As long as its "quiet", its OK.
if we do not accept the book of mormon
anybody ever scan all the other sites to see how they compare?
below is a sample letter to a ex=mormon site
Did anyone see the WTBTS commercial that aired? My mom called me about it, at first she thought it was a Mormon commercial, but then realized they were using scriptures. I think it must have only aired once... I've never seen it. I believe they have it on their official website.
i've always wanted to know.... why were there prostitutes in isreal?
why weren't they "stoned", and who were "visiting" them... hmmm, and why didn't they have a test for adultery for men?
i think its pretty obvious.
Lust. One of my points is, that is seems that only men of the bible get to benefit from this. They got wives, concubines, prostitutes, a "test" to make sure their wives were faithful...
in a watchtower magazine article of september 1, 1951 entitled "hated for his name", an era of 10 persecution of christians is discussed.
but just to show how little insight the writer of this article shows, it goes on stating:.
-it is said that in the year 95 alone some 40,000 suffered martyrdom.
What would "disqualify" them... lack of knowledge???? I believe all of Christ's brothers, and the early congregations, apparently didn't have the "full knowledge" of truth (like we do today, thanks to the light)...however they made it to heaven. The early congregations had problems with morality, bickering, doctrine questions, etc. but I believe it was their faith in Jesus that made the difference. I thought all early christians got the "heavenly calling" until what, 1935???? thats when us "other sheep" appeared. It use to bug me that they "know" how many of the annointed are still left. Don't many of the articles dealing with early christians (like Justin Martyr, Isaac Newton (didn't he question the trinity) etc. hint at these one's being of the heavenly calling???
i've always wanted to know.... why were there prostitutes in isreal?
why weren't they "stoned", and who were "visiting" them... hmmm, and why didn't they have a test for adultery for men?
i think its pretty obvious.
I've always wanted to know...
Why were there prostitutes in Isreal? Why weren't they "stoned", and who were "visiting" them... hmmm, and why didn't they have a test for adultery for men? I think its pretty obvious.
Also, Rome didn't allow the Jews to stone wrong-doers, so they were "expelled" from the Synagogue (df'd)... does that mean Jesus talked to these sinners??? Could they be re-instated (I doubt it). Often df'ing is compared to Isreal putting wrong-doers to death... but we can "come back", they couldn't... hmmm - obviously I'm not busy enough at work. This much thinking hurts.
One last thought... did the wiping out of people eg. Flood, Sodom & Gomorrah, etc. ever really improve people - did they become more moral? more godly?
