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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  @ TheOldHippie:

  Cedar writes on his blog that

  "After listening to the above statement, publishers would be forgiven for assuming that more than 13,000 new Kingdom Halls are needed each year to keep pace with publisher growth.

  TOH..... Nowhere does it say that 13,000 are needed annually

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  Actually, Cedars didn't say '13,000 KHs are needed annually'. Read what he did say: "publishers would be forgiven for assuming that more than 13,000 new Kingdom Halls are needed each year".

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  I believe he is correct.

  Watch and see after the letter is read how many JWs interpret the WT's statement to mean that 13,000 KHs are needed annually, so they must donate like mad fools to meet the demand.
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  duplicate post
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  WTF x 2? duplicate post
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  WTF? duplicate post
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Of course, one can debate about what is a higher "need" - a permanent structure for a Kingdom Hall, or economic help for the congregation members who would attend there.

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  Agreed.

  Ultimately, I think this really is the point. If JWs are meeting in "a canvas "roof" strung up between trees", there's a reason: those JWs are dirt poor and can't afford a KH. If WT was really interested in JWs as people rather than commodities, they'd see that a brand new KH is probably not the first thing to be addressed.

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  But, as long as poor JWs in Third World countries have things like chickens, food from their gardens, and bicycles to sell and then give the money to WT for their new KH, what do the high flyers at headquarters care?
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  in many countries there simply are not enough Kingdom Hals...They meet in shacks, shelters, rented facilities, etc.

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  I see no problem with this. It's less expensive for JWs in the long run.

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  Real world example: In my area the Circuit used to rent high school auditoriums for $3000. a weekend. The schools are within 15-30 minutes of the congregations using them.

  Now: The Circuit has a new WT Ass Hall that cost local JWs $8 million to build, is anywhere from a 90 minute-6 hour drive to get to, depending on where a JW lives, it's in the middle of nowhere (literally), and it "costs" $20,000 a weekend to use it, despite the fact it has no mortgage- it was 100% paid for before construction was complete.

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  The same scam works with Kingdom Halls (i.e., Menlo Park).

  The rented facilities are a far better deal.
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  New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me

  by Watchtower-Free in

  1. watchtower
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  new donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.

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  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I asked my elder why they are told to hide 3 pages of the 4 page letter from the congregation. Thats when he hung up

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  "True religion in no way practices secretiveness." --W 6/1/97. p.6

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  That pretty much explains the 'secret' 3 pages, the elder's response, and what WT is all about.

  WT: Condemned by their own words....again.
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  Lot's last word to his wife

  by bamse in

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  does anyone come after us?.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  "your blood pressure will go through the roof! You know sodium is not good for you".
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  Is this new donation arrangement for real?

  by nugget in

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  just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

  congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

  congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  A Parody of emeth??!!..

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  emeth is a parody.....
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  Is this new donation arrangement for real?

  by nugget in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read a post on jwsurvey about the new donation arrangement.

  congregations are to pledge a monthly amount to be sent to the society to fund the building of assembly halls and kingdom halls.

  congregations who already have a loan from the society will no longer have to pay back the loan but the amount pledged should not be less than the current monthly repayments to the society.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  i dont participate in doctrinal discussions, i dont come here to talk or read about the organization or our teachings and beliefs.

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  I see emeth has fully embraced the new methods of JW "witnessing".

  The modern JW approach to dispensing "truth" and defending their beliefs: