robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.
"it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.
they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.
@ Kate...
If a person is questioning or ready to leave WT and they are here, I doubt whether using "WT" vs. "Borg" will make any difference. If it does, I don't think they would be here in the first place.
At least JWNers aren't calling anyone "mentally diseased". We do have our standards.
robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.
"it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.
they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.
I'll go so far as to give you an answer from WT literature why exposing WT stupidity is not wrong. If they don't like what we do here, then they shouldn't have written this:
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"So, then, when religious leaders and organizations of Christendom misrepresent God’s Word by teaching traditions of men, is it wrong to expose their false doctrines? When they claim to be following Christ and yet mix in worldly politics, is it a bad thing to publicize that their actions are unchristian and condemned by God? Should the truth be suppressed because it exposes falsehood and corruption? Never! Jesus never hesitated to speak the truth, even though he was killed at the instigation of the angered religious leaders for doing so.—John 17:14; Jas. 4:4.
Therefore, how will you respond when pointed statements are made about false religious teachings and corrupt practices? Will you immediately condemn the person or organization making the exposé? Do you feel it is all right to teach lies and misrepresent God’s Word, but wrong to expose the error? Contrary to what some may think, it is not unkind and unloving to lay bare falsehood and corruption." ---W 3/1/66, p. 132
fusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
@ cantleave
Well said.
robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.
"it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.
they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.
It has been said that the best way to highlight absurdity is to be absurd.
WT is infinitely absurd.
The answer to your question is "No".
fusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
I have no knowledge of science . What i said just came to me without any study,research prior knowledge etc.So i shared it with you all. SOme of what i said i belivieve to be true or near true some of what i said before maybe not
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This statement is absurd for many reasons, but two glaring ones are:
1. If you have no knowledge of the subject matter, how can you believe some of it may be true?
2. Why did you immediately attack anyone who attempted to enlighten you by defending your completely ignorant position? Then you went further by labelling these same people as "know it alls". Frankly, I find that accusation hysterically laughable, considering you finally admitted you have 0% knowledge of the subject at hand.
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Have you arrived at your religious beliefs using the same methodology?
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"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep-seated need to believe."
- Carl Sagan
87 year old sister (who's current husband, a total nazi one foot in the grave) was excited to relate that (she heard) a talk at the regional convention said a wife would be happy to meet her ressurected husband and grab him in her arms!
she reads that as reunion of the married kind.
she is pooping skittles she's so happy.
It wouldn't be the first time WT has flip-flopped on this subject.
It'll be interesting to hear if this is discussed at the RC. Thankfully, I won't be there to hear it firsthand.
what are the best quotes, old and new about this mystical power?
i just had a " come to jesus " talk with my wife.
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@ BU2B: Seems like they are saying they are the mediator without actually saying it
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They've actually come out and said it.
Keep in mind that when these articles were written, Christ's "brothers" and the "faithful slave" were all of the anointed. Now it's only the 7 member Governing Body, which makes these statements even more absurd:
” So in this strict Biblical sense Jesus is the “mediator” only for anointed Christians....The “great crowd” of “other sheep” that is forming today is not in that new covenant. However, by their associating with the “little flock” of those yet in that covenant they come under benefits that flow from that new covenant"
-- W 4-1-79, p 31
" The other sheep should never forget that their salvationdepends on their active support of Christ's anointed " brothers" still on earth.". - W 3-15-12, p.20
"And while now the witness yet includes the invitation to come to Jehovahs organization for salvation, the time no doubt will come when the message takes on a harder tone, like a "great war cry."" Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.21
*** yb75 p. 250 Part 3—United States of America ***
"Many are the benefits of the new congregational arrangement. For instance, Edgar C. Kennedy feels it “could be the means of stronger solidarity in the event a congregation was separated from the governing body for a period of time.”
(apparently being separated from the GB is more serious than being separated from Jesus)
Kingdom Ministry 11/1990 p. 1 Directing Bible Students to Jehovah’s Organization
Bible students need to get acquainted with the organization of the “one flock” Jesus spoke about at John 10:16. They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation. (Rev. 7:9, 10, 15) Therefore, we should start directing our Bible students to the organization as soon as a Bible study is established.
"The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their Leader, Christ." Watchtower 2010 Sep 15 p.23
"It is vital that we appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the "slave" as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision." Watchtower 1957 Jun 15 p.370
what are the best quotes, old and new about this mystical power?
i just had a " come to jesus " talk with my wife.
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CS: There's no apostolic authority, no revelation, no angels
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See, the LDS and WT have more in common than you think, Cold Steel...practically twins.
"It's one of the things that most fascinates me about" the religion your hubris.
discreetly!.
that was the word the speaker used to tell jws at the regional convention that when the need to visit or associate with d'fd family members....okay to do so......only discreetly!.
on friday morning in the 6 part symposium entitled 'what must be kept in second place?
I'm with Cofty on this...some confirmation would be nice.
Knowing WT, if this statement was made from the platform, it was not in the outline.
sir82 is spot on....that brother will probably never give a talk at an assembly again.
fusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
SCO openly admits he doesn't agree with what he himself says and doesn't even know if it's true...but he'll argue his position regardless.
Since he can't even agree with himself, it's unreasonable to think he'll agree with anyone else either.
Stupid is as stupid does.
