AndDontCallMeShirley

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  Reading the Bible Alone "Will Lead you to Apostate Thinkings!" Stay a Watchtowerite!

  by BucketShopBill in

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  "from time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of jehovah's people those, who, like the original satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...they say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home.

  but, strangely, through such 'bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago.

  the watchtower, aug. 15, 1981.. .

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  "How do you know she is a witch?"

  "She turned me into a newt. I got better."
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  Anyone else notice the new Terms of Use on jw.org?

  by leaving_quietly in

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  i first noticed it today... slides up at the bottom.

  i wonder why they felt the need to do this?

  this is just silly for a religious website..

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  BOC: Ok. . . . so enforcing legal minutiae regarding downloading "intellectual property" is more important than spreading the message of gods kingdom earth wide?

  Exactly. If WT has the only "life-saving" message the whole world needs to hear before Armageddon comes (anyday now, "soon"), why is WT limiting the use of the info ? They should be happy that people want to help them spread the message-for free, no less.
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  Reading the Bible Alone "Will Lead you to Apostate Thinkings!" Stay a Watchtowerite!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "from time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of jehovah's people those, who, like the original satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...they say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home.

  but, strangely, through such 'bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago.

  the watchtower, aug. 15, 1981.. .

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  they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago

  You mean the same Bible commentaries WT has in its Bethel Library and quotes from and uses regularly (because WT doesn't have any of its own scholars)?

  How terrible !
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  "I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

  by 4thgen in

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  have you ever heard that statement?

  i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.

  they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.

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  Space Madness: If belief in God makes me a better person, isn't that enough for me to justify my belief?

  Religion doesn't always make people better people. Ever hear of ISIS?

  And, belief in god makes you "better" compared to what?

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  In regard to the topic, if a JW learned WT wasn't the "Truth", would they still:

  > refuse a life-saving blood transfusion for themselves or their children?

  > shun a family member who has a different view of life?

  > choose not to attend college simply because some higher up tells them not to?

  > shelve their dreams ?

  etc.

  How exactly do these choices constitute the "best way" of life?
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  "I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

  by 4thgen in

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  have you ever heard that statement?

  i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.

  they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.

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  "I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

  Isn't this the very thing JWs condemn people in other religions for saying??

  "Yes, I know my church teaches false doctrines, doesn't always follow the Bible, gets involved in wars and politics, etc., but I like being a (Catholic; Baptist; Mormon, etc, etc)...it's the best way to live".
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  Why The Watchtower Must Abolish Judicial Committees

  by metatron in

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  some years ago, i upset some crypto-watchtower apologists by stating that the organization must eventually either abolish the co arrangement or radically change it because it creates a direct chain of liability by chain of command and makes them a hierarchy (without catholic level assets or influence to support such a structure).. i would make a similar argument with regard to judicial committees.

  i do not contend that the watchtower would get rid of these repellent anachronisms simply because they are unethical in form and use but rather that they represent an increasing liability/obstacle to the organization's survival.. why?.

  1) such committees tend to open up all sorts of legal challenges and dangers.

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  A recent BOE Letter seems to validate metatron's astute observations:

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/281401/1/Changes-in-DF-reporting#.U7YWx43n_Sc
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  9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

  by EndofMysteries in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  "a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

  another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

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  Caedes: This is your post where you make a slippery slope argument that banning children from firing uzis would lead to banning skiing and cars.

  It's not a slippery slope because there is no slope. You are being willfully obtuse, Caedes.

  I have never said what you claim I have, but you're going to believe whatever you want to believe. I can't do anything about that.

  You are cherry-picking to make fallacious arguments and attributing them to me. You conveniently ignore a following post of mine after the one you cherry-picked. "ilikecheese" said:

  I know of dozens of people who would think this story was totally fine. If you can't even drive until you're in the middle of your teens, you shouldn't be firing any guns

  ADCMS replied:

  "Agreed.

  The problem is, when a story like this makes the news, the gun control advocates want to take firearms away from adults, too. I believe reasonable limits, or outright rules against children handling firearms, are not a bad thing."

  Note that I did not limit my comment only to children firing Uzi's, as you claim. I used the broad term of "firearms", which further undermines your disingenuous assertions, Caedes.

  If you have to cherry-pick, misrepresent and lie to make your arguments, Caedes, maybe you shouldn't be making them.

  Read my posts instead of reading into them.
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  HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

  by DATA-DOG in

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  1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

  suggestions welcome.. .

  dd.

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  "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Mark Twain

  7% of Atheists do not believe in God but do believe in a god.

  Then, by definition, they are not atheists.
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  9yr old girl kills her gun instructor with an uzi

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
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  http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/arizona-girl-fatal-shooting-accident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2.

  "a 9-year-old girl learning to fire a submachine gun accidentally killed her instructor at a shooting range when the weapon recoiled over her shoulder, according to arizona authorities.

  another reason to go against those arguing that young children should be taught how to use guns.

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  caedes: Your knee jerk reaction was to claim that it was just an accident so we should do nothing

  Show me where I said this.

  In fact, in my post above (#3359), which I doubt you even read, I said this: "I'm not saying that the instructor or parents exercised good judgment. This incident will perhaps result in some changes, either by legislation or other means, that will prevent a repeat of this type of tragedy in the future. I hope it does."

  You're so focused on firing off a glib retort you don't even absorb what I say...just like you've done with the rest of my posts.

  Caedes: Should we ban small children from other dangerous activities? Personally I think each case should be looked at on it's own merits.

  This is what I've said throughout the thread. Yet when you say it it's 'profound', when I say it you don't see it.

  Caedes: your way of life is too dangerous to tolerate?

  My way of life? You don't know anything about me. Do you live in the USA, Caedes?

  Caedes: I'm afraid I was unaware that people let children engage in such a stupidly dangerous activity before this story broke

  People who do this kind of thing are a very small minority. Responsible gun owners like myself are just as upset as everyone else. Stop painting everyone with the same brush and making sweeping generalizations about millions of people.

  Read the comments below this follow-up story. Gun owners agree the decisions made leading to this incident were highly irresponsible. It also reveals your claims as completely baseless and judgmental:

  https://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-girl-said-uzi-too-much-her-160913332.html
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  Finally, We have a Easy To Understand Explanation of the " New Light on Governing Body" and their Power Grab from Anointed JWs!

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
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  ask any jehovah's witness you happen to see to explain the recent changes to the anointed and faithful slave, most have no ideas how they are robbing all authority from the anointed jws to keep for themselves.

  they can't even explain the "overlapping generation", how can we expect them to catch the errors this dogma is teaching them.

  this article is written by someone who knows about jws and explains in details how bad this doctrine is, it's full of holes!.

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  BSB: Most JWs still don't understand the changes

  The truth is, JWs don't have to know anything about their beliefs or be able to explain them.

  "Listen, obey, and be blessed" is all that matters.

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  Furthermore, the anointed have never really been important to WT nor have they had any real influence. WT has openly admitted this:

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  Memorial

  partakers. This is the number of baptized individuals who partake of the emblems at the Memorial worldwide. Does this total represent the number of anointed ones on earth? Not necessarily. A number of factors—including past religious beliefs or even mental or emotional imbalance—might cause some to assume mistakenly that they have the heavenly calling. We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones." -W 8/15/11, p22, QFR