AndDontCallMeShirley

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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  so what was the psychologist arguing for?

  He wasn't arguing for anything. He was simply illustrating by a real life example that, regardless of a person's background, they do have choices in life. Using your background as a crutch to become a criminal, be a failure, etc. is a self-limiting choice, not a foregone conclusion.

  So the psycholoigst could ask what structures were implicated in one brother ending up in prison and the other being so rich as to be a millionaire?

  If, by "structures" you mean what was each brother's thinking pattern, that is precisely the point of the story. One brother framed his background to mean he had no choice but to become a criminal just like his father; the other brother framed his experience to motivate him to be the exact opposite of his father.

  In case you missed the point, each brother lives in the same country (USA) and grew up in the exact same circumstances. So the argument that a person's experiences and "geography" (growing up in a "thug-rich" environment) determine his life is pure nonsense.

  I don't know if you are asking a clarifying point or looking for something to argue about. I related a true story. Either accept it or don't.

  and what does psychology have to offer?

  Really?
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  To talesin:

  I'm going to paraphrase a true story which reveals the fallacious nature of your claims, Re: "geography" and skin color hamstring a person's opportunities and choices in life.

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  Two sibling brothers (incidentally, black men) grew up with an abusive, alcoholic father who ended up in federal prison serving a life sentence for murder.

  One brother ended up in prison himself for various felonies; the other brother became a self-made millionaire, pillar of the community with a happy, successful family.

  A psychologist interviewed both brothers (one still in prison) independently; neither brother knew the other was being interviewed, therefore, one's answers could not influence the other's.

  The psychologist recorded each brother's version of their life experiences, and at the end of the interview he asked them both one question: "how is it that you ended up where you are in life right now?"

  They both gave the identical answer: "With a father and upbringing like mine, what choice did I have?"
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  PS. I undersatnd your personal bias. You are most likely, white and middle class. 'Nuff said!

  And you are the one pointing fingers at others about racism? Astonishing. It didn't take long for you to show who you really are...which nullifies any previous arguments you made about the evils of racism in the 21st century.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  talesin: I don't get your point, except to be 'right'. And that's okay. I don't need to win.

  Go forth, and multiply. The ignorant always need more ppl on their side.

  A typical response. I expect no less from you.

  What's hilarious is that you are pissed off by words you wrote, and your only retort is a childish ad hominem when I quote you. Will you be grown up enough to admit I accurately quoted you and in context? Or, are you going to pretend you didn't say what you said.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  And since I don't "LIVE" in America. I am ignorant.

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  But the black kid, who is born in East LA and will forever be labelled because he received a poor education, and was labelled a 'thug' because of geography, may beg to differ.

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  Read your own posts first, talesin, before retorting with idiocy...

  And, I quoted you in context. If you don't like what you post, don't post it.

  lol, you are really cherry-picking now! just so I can reply, can you reference that quote by page?

  Just in case you "forget you posted this, it's on this page, P.12. Look up.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  tal: ...labelled a 'thug' because of geography

  A person gets labelled a "thug" by their actions, not their geography.

  You are taking the coward's approach and creating excuses for bad behavior....
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  2. current

  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  tal: And since I don't "LIVE" in America. I am ignorant.

  followed by:

  tal: But the black kid, who is born in East LA and will forever be labelled because he received a poor education, and was labelled a 'thug' because of geography, may beg to differ.

  How is it that you seemingly know what it's like, considering you are "ignorant" of America, are not black, have never lived in L.A., are Canadian and a female?

  Your fantastical musings do provide a good belly laugh, however.

  Maybe if black people, and the whitey's who prop them up, would stop using the word "can't", all these alleged barriers would suddenly evaporate by nothing more than a little more thinking "can do". Amazing how that works.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

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  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  There's no doubt racism still exists in the USA. News flash: racism exists everywhere in some form or another regardless of how enlightened a person or society thinks they are. And, IMO, as I have already said, this nonsense in Ferguson has less to do with purported racial issues than it does with Neanderthals capitalizing on a situation to act out on their dysfunctional, go-nohwere, destructive lives, nothing more.

  What irks me more than anything is when black people lament their lot in life in 2014- the age of Tiger Woods, Colin Powell, Denzel Washington, and for god's sake, Obama- and act as if they are still living in 18th/19th century America- still slaves, still without hope, forever trodden down by "the man". If that was true, then we wouldn't have Tiger Woods, Colin Powell, Denzel Washington, and for god's sake, Obama.

  Perhaps the biggest problem with some people is not what has actually happened in the past but the fact they simply can't let it go. I challenge anyone to find any race, nationality or color of people that has not somehow gotten a bad deal somewhere in history. I'm sure I could find many events in history highlighting how Scandanavians have been abused or been victims of racism, then use it as an excuse to loot my neighbor's business and burn down my neighborhood.

  The difference with the vast majority of people on this planet and the troglodytes in Ferguson is: everyone else has moved on.
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  Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  after a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.

  let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  Let's not pretend, okay? I hate that - there's something about pretension that gets on my nerves.

  Denying factual history and arguing just to argue gets on my nerves. So my personal view (based in history) is "group think" ? Whatever, Tal.

  [edit]:

  (t) gets it

  LOL.
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  I tripped into a JW literature cart

  by diana netherton in

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  i wasn't looking where i put my feet, and i almost took the cart out!

  anyway, i stopped and chatted with the people for a bit.

  three women and a man -- an elder and his wife.

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  AndDontCallMeShirley

  I made a joke that I had wished that I had a cart like that when I was a child going from door to door with my family.

  When you were a kid, diana, literature carts were wrong. Now they are right because the GB says so.

  You handled the situation nicely. It's good to remember that JWs are just slaves to a system but are, for the most part, genuine people. Just uninformed and hoodwinked.