The sheep are being prepared - some for fleecing, others for slaughter!
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"Sheep are interesting creatures — docile, timid, and often plain stupid." --- Awake- March 8, 1993
AndDontCallMeShirley
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New "Donation Arrangement" is a DECOY!
by The Searcher input yourself in the org's position - distasteful as that is - and come up with a solution to solve the problems of not only recovering their stock market losses, but also, ensuring an increase in their dwindling revenue stream.. the major problem is, donations are voluntary (with no future guarantees) whereas pledges are compulsory - in the heart and mind of the giver!.
however, far too many will probably forget/refuse to keep up their monthly tax - with no way of knowing who is 'paying the man', and who is not.
master stroke - make plan a 100% certainty to fail in the first year, based on the 'anonymity' of the setup.
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New "Donation Arrangement" is a DECOY!
by The Searcher input yourself in the org's position - distasteful as that is - and come up with a solution to solve the problems of not only recovering their stock market losses, but also, ensuring an increase in their dwindling revenue stream.. the major problem is, donations are voluntary (with no future guarantees) whereas pledges are compulsory - in the heart and mind of the giver!.
however, far too many will probably forget/refuse to keep up their monthly tax - with no way of knowing who is 'paying the man', and who is not.
master stroke - make plan a 100% certainty to fail in the first year, based on the 'anonymity' of the setup.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
I commented on this on another thread. You are right, Searcher. Of course, many thought this idea was too 'out there' to be plausible, but as you so aptly observe, it is almost inevitably the way it must go.
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I predict this is how it will go:
1. WT will direct debit a JWs bank account every month for the "donation"
2. If a JW pays by check, the Accounts Servant (AS) will compare the check amount to the amount pledged to verify if the amounts match.
3. If a JW pays by cash, they'll "donate" directly to the Accounts Servant and be given a receipt. The AS will note the cash "donation" on his congregation's "Who Gave What to WT This Month" log.
4. JWs will pay by credit card. I predict soon that ATM terminals will be located in each Kingdom Hall. Or, the WT will simply direct-charge the JWs CC every month.
In short, there will no way to skirt the system. If a JW is not donating, the local Monkey's Asses (elders) will know it, and that person will most assuredly be receiving as many "shepherding calls" as necessary to get them on the program. JWs who refuse to participate, or cannot because they are too poor, will be put on a "Spritually Weak" list and be shunned as "bad association". Any JW not "donating" will be viewed as opposing Jehovah™ and not actively supporting Kingdom Interests™.
And, as has been noted, the expected "donations" will start small, but escalate exponentially. Just like Assembly Halls, the expected donations will become absurd and burdensome. How will JWs be convinced to go along with it? Fortunately for WT, there are a lot of "Emeth" types in the Org.
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So Spill the Beans, Brothers: Were There More or Fewer At this Year's Bore-Fest
by steve2 inthe jw date-worshipped memorial has just completed its bleak worldwide commemoration.
that wasn't a dust cloud you saw; it was a millionfold hearts limply beating themselves into another round of great tribulation expectations.
i was knocked into a deep, deep sleep by the imagined experience of being at several thousand consecutive kingdom halls as the platformed drones spat forth the predictable sludge that, once released, hits and stains white clothing and bleach is useless.. we know that memorial attendance worldwide has dipped for two consecutive years since 2011 when it reached a high of 19,374,737 and for the promised land, obama's usa, the all time memorial attendance high was also 2011 when it hit over 2.5million (2,563,518) but shrunk in shame back to 2,502,055 in 2012 and spluttered upwards a handful or two to 2,504,114 last year.. so, what was attendance at the date-obsessed bore-fest this year in your neck of the woods?
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AndDontCallMeShirley
S2: This year, in true biased fashion, my peculiar social survey minded self predicts worldwide attendance will be shy of 20,000,000 by a country mile
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You don't actually believe WT's reported numbers on this or anything else, do you?
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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?
by will-be-apostate ini was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.
" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
Jehovah™is like his Witnesses™: the things WT condemns everyone else for doing are suddenly righteous when they themselves do it.
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Jehovah™ condemns jealousy and love of violence...unless he's the one doing it- then it's okay.
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Old Testament's God Is Not The God of Love - How Do You Prove it?
by will-be-apostate ini was having a discussion with a brother about the following topic: if psalms says.
" the lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
The tribes from canaan were wicked beyond measure therefore they deserved to be massacred. Wasn't this a rightfull act?
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"I did not join the resistance movement to kill people, to kill the nation. Look at me now. Am I a savage person? My conscience is clear." -- Pol Pot
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God is in good company. Tyrants throughout history have used the same skewed reasoning to justify genocides and other unthinkable atrocities.
God is also a hypocrite. In the case of Canaan, He allegedly was so offended by the Canaanite's practice of child sacrifice/murder, the only logical "solution" he could think of was ordering the Israelites to wipe out every living thing in the region- including murdering the children.
In reality, god isn't so much concerned about children being murdered by their parents---he's just offended when He is not the one doing the murdering.
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
"Sheep are interesting creatures — docile, timid, and often plain stupid." ---- Awake! 3-8-1993
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
w87 12/1 p. 30:
"Unlike the churches of Christendom, Jehovah’s Witnesses do not take up collections or send out envelopes to solicit donations."
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*** w62 5/1 p. 277 How May I Contribute? ***
But because the Watch Tower Society is a charitable organization and because it does not follow the methods of Christendom’s religions, taking up money collections or tithes, there is a good deal of wonderment as to how the Society gets its money and supports itself.*** w13 7/1 p. 4 Can You Trust Religion Regarding Money? ***
Jehovah’s Witnesses commonly meet in modest buildings called Kingdom Halls. How are expenses covered? They never pass collection plates, nor do they send out envelopes to solicit donations. Rather, any who appreciate the spiritual program can discreetly place a donation in a contribution box at the Kingdom Hall. -
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
if this memorial may be our last one, why worry about the long run with expensive real estate?
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Such of the hypocrisy of WT: it tells all JWs we're on the doorstep of Armageddon so do nothing that even hints at long-range planning (college; saving for retirement;investing). Meanwhile, WT goes full steam ahead building its empire with very long-range plans.
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A point which virtually every JW will miss in this week's book study
by sir82 infrom this week's book study, the "draw close to jehovah" book, chapter 5:.
biologists have identified well over a million species of living things on earth; yet, opinions vary as to whether there may be as many as 10 million, 30 million, or more.. .
wow!
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AndDontCallMeShirley
"some investigators" = WT staff writers (aka, janitors) making B.S. up off the top of their head....
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New Donation arrangement (tithe) Asked my Elder about it he hung up on me
by Watchtower-Free innew donation arrangement (tithe) asked my elder about it he hung up on me.
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http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-instructs-congregations-to-pledge-fixed-monthly-donations.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
I can walk in anytime to see how the money is being used. Financial statements are posted in the church.
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What a novel concept.