Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.

by donuthole in

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when rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.

some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.

a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".

AndDontCallMeShirley

Metatron, that's what I've been thinking as well. I think they are going to dump the Watchtower as a magazine and disavow any association with the word.

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I stated the same thing on another thread a few months ago.

Rutherfraud abandoned the name IBSA in order to distance the WT from the epic fails of the 1914 and 1925 false prophecies. The best way to accomplish that was simply rebrand the IBSA as "Jehovah's Witnesses".

Similarly, the "Jehovah's Witnesses" brand-name currently carries so much baggage, with the 1975 debacle, the pedophilia cover-ups, labelling any dissenter as "mentally diseased", etc. WT must, yet again, rebrand itself in the interest of damage control and self-preservation.

I believe both "Watchtower" and "Jehovah's Witnesses" will fade away and "JW.Org" will be the official moniker of the WT.

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When did the JW adopt the "GB" practice?

by BlackSwan of Memphis in

im discussing things online with people and i keep forgetting that they havent' always had the gb and that there was a time that it was just a president or whatever.

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when did that change?

AndDontCallMeShirley

Black Swan:

Now the GB has been identified as the "Faithful and Discreet Slave," replacing the Anointed Remnant on earth who used to be considered the FDS.

Whoa, wait. Huh???

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see W 7-15-13.

The "Faithful and Discreet Slave" is now exclusively the 7 member Governing Body.

All other 'anointed' are just "domestics" and not a part of the FDS.

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Heads Up: If you are an older JW, WT has no further use for you!

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

wt is retiring district overseers, has sent older jws serving at bethel packing despite years of faithful service, and as of june 1, 2014, has announced that any elder that has reached 80 years of age is no longer valued or wanted as a cobe.

in wt land it would appear that older people have little or no value, and wt sees no reason to use them in any meaningful capacity.

i wonder how this makes older ones feel after devoting their lives to wt's interests while shelving their own hopes and dreams?.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Talking to 2 diiferent "Brothers" about this (Elders in their late 40's), they like this new arrangement and can't wait to dicuss it at the next Elder's meeting.

Of course they like it. A WT-mandated forced 'retirement' policy for the current head honcho. It makes climbing the corporate ladder to the next rung so much easier for an ambitious, forty-something elder who's got his eye on being the next COBE.

Granted, some of these 70+ COBEs may no longer qualify to serve in much of any capacity, but an across-the-board rule ousting a person based solely on age, without consideration of his abilities and performance now, is rather silly.

I like it though....it'll just create yet another group that WT has disenfranchised and embittered by being marginalized to the "what have you done for us today?" category, along with all the other faithful JWs WT has managed to piss off lately (Bethelites; District Overseers, etc.).

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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.

by donuthole in

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friends

when rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.

some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.

a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".

AndDontCallMeShirley

Rutherford fired the Governing Body

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There was no governing body. He fired the Board of Directors.

Under Russell and Rutherfraud, the WT was a monarchy.

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Imitate the Faith of Moses Study Article

by Rattigan350 in

the study article imitate the faith of moses study article, is the same old blah that they always have.

moses, a guy who lived 4000 years ago, did.

something when he was 40 years old when he was in egypt and when he was in the wilderness at the burning bush, an angel communicated with him.. .

AndDontCallMeShirley

When thinking about "Paradise Earth"™, do the same thing WT does when formulating it's theology: "Use your imagination"

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jhine: What stikes me about any of the "quotes " from people who are supposedly sooo happy after giving something up is that they are never named and the quotes can never be verified

Most likely made up; at the very least, no source material is given because if a JW could actually read the "experience" in context, it would be a different story altogether...

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Expect more Crazy as JW.ORG trims the fat and fills the coffers.

by donuthole in

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friends

when rutherford assumed the presidency of the watchtower society he instituted series of sweeping changes to the teachings and practices of the bible students.

some of these changes were at complete odds with what had been taught previously.

a key example was the elevation of the watchtower society as "god's visible organization on earth".

AndDontCallMeShirley

The end result was that an estimated three-fourths of the religion seperated over those decades. However, what remained was a core group fiercely loyal to the Watchtower Society that were rebranded as Jehovah's Witnesses.

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In true WT fashion, these dissenters have been labelled/judged as "unfaithful", "disloyal to god", not accepting of 'god's direction' of appointed men. The truth is, the 75% who left the WT and Rutherfraud saw them for what they are- a self-serving pseudo Christian religion that promoted false prophecies and unscriptural teachings. In reality, the "apostates"/unfaithful to god are the ones who stayed with Rutherfraud/WT. It was the faithful who left.

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One small correction: Rutherfraud didn't "assume" the presidency of WT, as if he was the elected leader by legal procedure. No, he hijacked the presidency through manipulation, strong-arm bullying and "mischief by law". The wishes of CT Russell for WT after his death never included anything close to Rutherfraud being the president. In fact, Rutherfraud was on a secondary list as an alternate board member- that's all.

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How to find joy in the ministry, according to one elder

by ohnightdivine in

he said that having a goal is the most important, since we do not want to waste our time and become depressed when going out in the ministry.. and what else could be better than setting a goal to, say, distribute xx number of magazines during that day?!.

in this way we could feel contented and joyful in service.. .

how profound!

AndDontCallMeShirley

And what else could be better than setting a goal to, say, distribute xx number of magazines during that day?!

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Jeez, I'd think that if you really believed you were the only "true" religion on the planet and had a message of "everlasting life™" that would save a person, your goal would be to actually make a meaningful difference in someone's life. But apparently quantity is the focus of your day, not substance.

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If I were a JW, I'd take the advice of the new "Atlanta Int'l Convention" WT video slogan- "Get ready for the time of your life"- and skip service altogether and go something fun.

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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?

by AndDontCallMeShirley in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.

.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.

instead of preaching and saving people??.

AndDontCallMeShirley

dozy: They are just cheap JWs ( and I speak as a former cheap JW ) who take sandwiches for lunch and drink tap water with a cheap meal in the evening before having an early night. Other than the deals done with hotels very little spending will trickle down to the real economy

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In my area we used to have conventions right in the city. But, we've had three venues tell WT they are no longer interested in having JW conventions in the city. We drive 2.5 hours away to a city that is apparently so desperate that even miniscule/ -0- tax revenue is acceptable. I wonder if the "thanks, but no thanks" treatment of JWs was for the very reason you stated??

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Gypsy Sam: I just watched the mormon video. Wow. I guess I'm amazed at how similar the terminology and delusion is, but at least love was mentioned.

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Where in the WT video is love, Bible education, stronger family life, etc. mentioned? Not once! No focus on things that traditionally have been the focal point of WT rhetoric. Now it's all about having "the time of your life" doing things that aren't remotely "spiritual" (at least according to the 'old' WT).

I think the fact that love and other important things are not even mentioned in the video is because these things are rarely, if ever, on the minds of WT executives.

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New Tract for August 2014 - Scan

by BluesBrother in

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if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .

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AndDontCallMeShirley

November 8, 2011

TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN THE UNITED STATES BRANCH TERRITORY

Re: Use of electronic tablets

Dear Brothers:

We have received inquiries on the use of an electronic tablet, such as an iPad, when conducting the Watchtower Study or for viewing notes when giving a public talk. Herein we wish to provide some guidelines concerning this matter.

There is no objection to the use of an electronic tablet by an attendee in the audience as a means of following along ....an electronic tablet or other similar device should not be used on the platform...

.....it is felt that using an electronic tablet from the platform could prompt others to feel that they too should invest in such a device. Additionally, since many brothers cannot afford such a device, using one prominently from the stage could, in effect, create “class distinctions” or appear to be a “showy display of one’s means of life.”—Jas. 2:4; 1John 2:16.

Thank you for noting this direction being so gullible. We send our warm Christian love latest policy of more control-freak nonsense.

Your Brothers Your Human Rulers ,

The Elite 8 7, The One and Only, Governing Body™ (It's good the be the King).

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New Tract for August 2014 - Scan

by BluesBrother in

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if someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .

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AndDontCallMeShirley

It's a promotional flyer, nothing more.

I wonder how long it'll be before WT sells GB action figure dolls, logoed "JW.Org" coffee cups, sun visors, tote bags and t-shirts, and has a "GB Fan Club"?

Sickening.