Posts by AndDontCallMeShirley

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

So the water rises to 18000 ft and how does it now flow out of the region? Let me guess.. God build invisible walls to contain the water.

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probable answer from Vidqun: "Get in your time machine and imagine a big fishbowl..."

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban

by opusdei1972 in

some days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.

this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.

for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).

It'd be interesting to hear the elder's explanation as to why, prior to the 1960's (?) organ transplants were banned but blood transfusions were not. Then the flip-flop: organ transplants were allowed and blood transfusions were banned.

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And about those who died for those changes, they said that Jehovah let his people die in His Holy Wars (during the days of the ancient Israel), so we shouldn't be surprised for that.

Jehovah™....such a warm, fuzzy god.

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

AndDontCallMeShirley

I heard you were easy. What's this "buy you dinner first" nonsense?

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Something I need to clear up about the bible - It is not a BRONZE AGE BOOK!

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

let's be technical.

the bronze age ended in 1200 bce in devoloped places and later ... aroun 900-800 in other places.

indeed read 1 samuel 13's ending.. the bible was produced not one tiny bit in the bronze age.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Vidiot, will you be my marketing guy?

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kaik: On the other hand Midrash were compiled under influence of Persia and Greece.

I had midrash once...ointment cleared it right up.

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

heresay is not "evidence".

V: Perhaps you know of proof to the contrary?

You brought it up, not us. The burden of proof is on you.

V: I prefer Hollywood's version of the flood legend. It explains a lot of things.

It explains nothing. It's a Hollywood movie about a fictional event.

V: Bottom line: Our understanding of history is limited. So what exactly happened there we don't know.

Interesting. Just recently on this thread you were speaking in absolutes.

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Need info on the 3 year elder rule.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

so i have read that if an elder commited porneia (or other serious sin) while serving and it came to light years later, he would not necisarily be removed.

i mentioned this to my wife a while back, and she refused to believe it.

is this policy still in effect?

AndDontCallMeShirley

Flock book, pg. 38 , paragraph 19 states:

" If it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : The body of elders may determine HE CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE if the following is true : The immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he SHOULD HAVE come forward immediately when he sinned. "

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So, my question is: why can't a Publisher get away with committing secret sins using the same rule?

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

@ red: How about killing 99.99% of all animals in the great flood, in order to kill a few humans? What about killing 100% of plants on the planet in the same process?

Maybe it was part of god's "helping them to adapt" methodology.

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

Well, at least I can prove my belief

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using that imagination again, I see. You are a funny fellow.

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Poor Animals

by HeyThere in

wow.

the bible really is something else.

i believe i am becoming athiest.

AndDontCallMeShirley

No, I believe God helps one to adapt to one's situation, he doesn't take one out of the situation.

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Then why do humans need god?

Since he only allows nature to take its course (according to your opinion) and does nothing to help mankind progress or raise their level of awareness beyond their current state, then god is useless baggage.