Posts by Kudos

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JW's DO eat Blood

by Yerusalyim in

why is it that jw's are so big on this no blood thing, yet still eat blood in their meat?

the dubs i know claim to "cook out" the blood, but this in no way meets biblical standards.

in fact the way meat is slaughtered doesn't come close to meeting kosher requirements in the bible.

Kudos

LOL

Good one Gumby!!

Me ... I didn't have THAt problem!! I had 5 ... and now we are all safe and sound!!

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Baptised Twice!

by PopeOfEruke in

my friends mother has been a jw for ages, and i was amazed when i heard she was baptized twice as a jw, once in the 1940's and again in about 1961. .

whats the deal with that??

she mumbles something about things changed in those years and the earlier baptism was invalid or needed re-doing.... .

I was eight months pregnant when they baptised me ... they were very very careful to do it right because I was so small but my tummy was huge ... I felt funny and a little embarrassed ... The brother made sure my feet were planted ... had me bend my legs so my feet were behind me and said '' just lean back and I promise to pull you back up' ... he did ... I didn't want to be double dipped ..

I've never seen the 'baptismal police' but I know that most of the brothers that do the dunking are taught to be very careful and to get every bit ... even the hair under the water.

Nothing wrong with it ....

I don't believe in being baptised twice or at a young age.

If you are baptised because you want to dedicate your life to God ... should it be invalid if you go to another religion?? Or if you just decide to dedicate your life to God on your own by reading the bible and living the way he asks us to live??

I don't know ... but as my children and I don't go to church ... when my daughter wants to be baptised ... I was thinking about doing it myself ... is there anything wrong in that? Just wondering ...

M

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Gabriela Jacobo's story from NPR

by Nathan Natas in

you'll find the story about 2/3 of the way down the page under the heading "jehovah's witnesses.".

http://search.npr.org/cf/cmn/cmnpd01fm.cfm?prgid=2&prgdate=10/24/2002.

seventeen year-old gabriela jacobo's mother is a jehovah's witness, but gabriela and her brother are not.

Kudos

Sad ... Very Sad ...

Especially for them growing up in a house without love... I hated that. At least I felt I had God with me ... more because I didn't feel like my mom was shoving Him down my throat ...

Life shouldn't have to be that way ... not all JWs are .... but some need to quit being such extremists. It makes life miserable for the kids ...

I pray that Gabriela and her brother find love and God ... and that their mother comes to her senses ..

Which scripture is it?? The JWs quote it all the time ..

If you do not take care of your own ... and you try to help others ..you are worse than the man that does nothing ... something like that ...

M

God hates it when you are there for everyone else and not your own family. Our families are to come before anybody elses. Kids need us. That's it ..

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JW's DO eat Blood

by Yerusalyim in

why is it that jw's are so big on this no blood thing, yet still eat blood in their meat?

the dubs i know claim to "cook out" the blood, but this in no way meets biblical standards.

in fact the way meat is slaughtered doesn't come close to meeting kosher requirements in the bible.

Kudos

Thank you for the welcome.

I understand the point. I have seen where they have saved lives and cost lives. I hate that most doctors use them as a first option for everything. I refused a blood transfusion when I was hemmoridging after my son. The doctor started cussing ... my bestfriend (a JW) was out in the hall crying and praying ... I just looked at my doctor and said 'You are my doctor because I know you are good ... you can do this.' and I stayed calm ....

It was me ... not my child ... and I knew what it meant for my children if something happened to me. As I wasn't shot or cut ... it was somewhat different .... and I think that God gave me peace knowing things were going to be just fine. I had doubts at that time also.

The point that I made to everyone ... and that I will make now ... I knew what JWs believed, what they taught and so forth ... I made the choice to become one of them. I wasn't taught what to believe ... not for me ... I went because it was the CLOSEST to what I believed. If someone is really for taking a blood transfusion ... then that is THEIR choice NOT to become a JW. I wasn't pushed into becoming one. At one point the lady even asked me if she should come back and check on me ... I told her ......... mmmmmmmmmm..... maybe another day.

That is the thing ... you do have a choice whether you want to or not ... it's just if you choose to take blood transfusions ... celebrate holidays, smoke, have sex , live a life ... then you aren't a JW. It is their religion, their rules. You have to follow them if you want to be one.

I made my choice. If it was absolutely dire ... and all other options were exhausted first, I might except one. Still not sure. Especially after they did some really bad screenings a few years ago in Texas where 38 people died from ..... ummmmmm... gosh now I can't remember the name of it ... it is sometimes called 'The Kissing Disease' ... anyway ... it was in some of the blood right after the town had gotten over an epidemic, and more people died.

Technology is great ... but not that great.

I will point out a flaw in the logic that I found of the JWs. 1 or 2 years ago they came out with a Awake on the blood issue. It told of the different options there were. One of the options was a machine the catches the blood and cycles it through. I have a problem with that. It is the SAME as getting a blood transfusion with blood of your own that you have put up and stored for yourself. They say it is different that since it is still cycling through your body and it is the same blood, etc. it is ok.
I personally would use a method such as this, or storing up your own blood for personal use is ok also (if done at a reputable and trustworthy place) ... that way no sickness or such can be passed on. BUT!! With the way that the JWs logic works ... 'anything that goes into your veins is food' this blood recycling machine is making them eat blood. And they say that it is ok?!?!?

definitely something wrong with the logic there

I guess I got tired of finding these little bits .... and not being able to express what I felt scriptures believed without getting 'told off' for it. JWs aren't the only ones who do that though .... my reason for not going to church ... My kids can read the bible for themselves and make their own decisions. I feel sorry for the people who were brought up as JWs more than anything. They are the ones who really don't have a choice, right?? They lose EVERYTHING when they decide to quit. Family, friends, help, love, evrything they know ... those are the ones I hope to reach.

Nice to know there are some people in the world that still think for themselves ...

Thank you,
M

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Sex Abuse? Not only the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Nassau in

there are plenty of scandals inside our "holy" religions around the world.

check today's news from usa:.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/04/national/04bost.html?todaysheadlines.

Kudos

I was a JW ... and while I was a JW I turned in my husband for Child Molestation of my two daughters with the help of the elders. They are not perfect ... but some congregations are better than others. They ARE ALL people!! Just like you and me.
I just had a long prayer ... and think ... and talked to God about what I thought was right. I left. I felt that was the right thing to do. I am not here to insult anybody. The only people you guys might see me write insults about are the Sunday school teachers and the priest that kicked me out of classes and/or tried making an example out of me in front of their church for asking simple innocent questions. Was it my fault that I was a smart child and asked questions without logical answers? Or that my moms favourite preacher was drunk and he accidentally tripped on his grand entrance into the church??
I think not!!

kudos

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JW's DO eat Blood

by Yerusalyim in

why is it that jw's are so big on this no blood thing, yet still eat blood in their meat?

the dubs i know claim to "cook out" the blood, but this in no way meets biblical standards.

in fact the way meat is slaughtered doesn't come close to meeting kosher requirements in the bible.

Kudos

I am an ex JW ... and ... I am a vegetarian ... besides the blood issue ... I feel it is cruel to the animals!! I wouldn't want to die the way they do.
Anyway .... I do support the argument of no blood transfusions. I have seen the differences it makes. Many live better lives with alternatives. To watch an 8 year old girl slowly die over 8 months with constant blood transfusions everyday because of a fatal disease is a very sad thing. She hated the needle in her arm and could do nothing but lie in a hospital bed ... but because the parents wanted her for longer ... I cannot honestly say that I wouldn't do the same ... I would just hate myself afterwards .... Last days of my life dying in a hospital slowly ... not memories I would want of my child.
I feel any church you go to is hypocritical ... and all people are ... it is human nature, isn't it? I went to get the good bits and pieces out of it and it was a form of protection for me for a while ... I don't believe in name calling ...
They have their reasons ... Let them figure it out ... and to me ... all parts of mosaic law are dead and what Jesus taught is what we are supposed to follow. Why exactly do you guys think that blood transfusions are safe and ok?