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  My story in short

  by DeWandelaar in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am visiting this site for quite some time now and now i think it is time to tell something about me and my experience.

  without giving away my name (i am in "fade mode"): i am from the small country they call the netherlands, the land of wooden shoes, tulips, cheese and too many inhabitants per square meter.

  i am married with children and a second generation jw.

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  Bob_NC

  Beautiful DeWandelaar. Thank you for sharing. I admire that you have chosen the mild and forgiving path even though there could be reason to be angry resentful. Bob..who has been there too.
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  Love it Bobcat. Just love it. John 6:53, 54 did it for me and are just too powerful to ignore. I recall looking over the Mem talk outline back and front for Scriptural reasons for not partaking. You know what I found...in the OUTLINE? "Last year (speaker to look up last year's numbers) X number attended the Memorial worldwide while only X number partook of the emblems, truly a little flock..."

  The evidence for not partaking is how many people did not partake the previous year. Sheesh.
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  Hmm...schrodinger's Judas. Dang. I'll have to Google that. Maybe you mean the famous painting?
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  Gives you a headache? Yeah, that's what Judas whispered into Jesus' ear. Then he cut out early.
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  PLEASE SOMEONE DRINK

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's not too late to get this request out there.

  please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight?

  then come back here and let us know how it went over.

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  Bob_NC

  It's not too late to get this request out there. Please please, if you can muster the courage to be different, would you drink the wine and eat the bread tonight? Then come back here and let us know how it went over. Could you?
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  If you tried to get your doctrinal or historical questions answered by an elder in your cong...

  by NeverKnew in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what was the result?

  i have seen answers strewn throughout many posts but never consolidated.

  this is important.

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  Bob_NC

  I was likely considered the best read, most knowledgeable, elder in our congregation, so there was no one to ask questions of. When I stepped down I told my best friend elder that I would be happy to talk about it all in detail with him privately if he wanted to know. At first he said no, that he didn't need to hear the details.

  He changed his mind a few weeks later and said that he wanted to hear what my concerns were about. I gave him a written list of about 8 or 10 things. He asked if the list was "it", "is this what it's all about?" I said yes, that's the main things. We agreed to meet the next weekend to talk it all out. The week went by and I called him to firm up plans for a time over the weekend. He said that he wasn't able and that maybe we could in a week or so. I called him two weeks later and asked about getting together to talk over my list of concerns. Once again he wasn't able. So I dropped it and figured he would call when he was ready. That was 13 years ago. By the way, he was PO and a long time personal friend.
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  The World is going to end...

  by The Quiet One in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ..one day, as will our lives.

  any day could be the last day of our existence... with that in mind, how would you want to spend your final hours, if you knew that your life was going to end tomorrow?

  what would you like to say on that last day, and to whom?.

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  Bob_NC

  Apognophos, I was most interested in your comment about not having partiality and not being attached to anyone. I wonder how many people live the same. Maybe me sort of. Do you care to expound on what you mean?
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  TTATT Billboards?

  by Emery in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anyone ever thought about paying for a billboard close to either an assembly hall or a kingdom hall during memorial season?

  for instance i would probably pay for a billboard for a week or 2 displaying jwfacts.com on the highway or a nearby road that witnesses travel on heavily.

  has anyone ever tried something like this?.

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  Bob_NC

  In the early 90s, maybe late 80s, there was a TTATT type billboard a few miles from our assembly hall in Salisbury, NC on I-85. It said something like What about 1914? or The Truth about 1914. Something like that. I was a believer back then and ignored the apostate sign. LOL for real now.

  Anyone else see that billboard on I-85 near Salisbury, NC?
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  Feddy Franz Gives Us A Talk On Many Wrong Expectations And Understandings Of The Watchtower Corporation

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think freddy in this talk shows how delusional he is and was.

  to know all this stuff and still feel that the organization has the truth gives truth a new meaning.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmkdwk5svxm.

  may your faith be strengthed in god's earthly organization right up to the final end!.

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  Bob_NC

  The voice is unmistakeable. I would recognize it anywhere. Strange thing, I used to tape his talks at conventions and play them at home, listening for any glimmers of new light in things not quite said. Now, he sounds like a total loon that spent too many hours cooped up in his room making up stuff.

  And yes, ADMITS that it was all wrong in the past. But somehow, it comes out to still be "the truth." What lunacy!!
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  Could the JWs sway you back...?

  by new22day in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  op based on mr. freeze's topic - could attending the meetings/studying again sway any of you back to the org.

  hearing the propaganda over and over again is pretty powerful i'm sure.

  (i'm a non-jw, non-christian (no offense), stubborn as a bull and even i had moments of pause based on some of the doctrine (lasted 30 seconds) but i never had family/friends at stake or a background in this.

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  Bob_NC

  I was a publsher at age 10, got baptised at 11. I would call that pretty well indoctrinated at a young age.

  I will never go back. Never. It is ridiculous to even consider it.