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  Who are the A/As on the board?

  by starfish422 in

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  not alcoholics anonymous, mind you.

  :) atheists/agnostics.

  i know there are some of us here; who's with me?

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  donkey

  I believe in the blood of Jesus although it has formed a stinky scab now - but I have faith.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY Welcomed Here?

  by minimus in

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  in view of the fact that there are mostly ex-witnesses on this forum, the question is," are jw's truly welcomed here?".

  it seems to me that if a poster supports the witnesses in any way, that they will know about it.

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  donkey

  hope like so many here you don't think that anyone who may be pro-jw has no thinking ability, and must be a troll or stupid

  Actually I will be honest here for you - I do think someone who is pro-jw has very limited thinking ability.

  I could just as easily say that people who believe the earth is flat have thinking ability and it is rude or unkind to say they don't. If one has thinking ability they have 2 options - show it or hide it.
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  Noah...that drunken boat builder?

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've learned a ton on this forum and elsewhere which pretty much disproves noah's global flood to me personally?.

  long before this as a dub though one thing always bothered me about the account and how unreasonable it seemed even if you discount the animals.. .

  noah had three sons in 600 yrs (noah got it even less than me), his sons did not have any children before the flood.

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  donkey

  If the Noachian flood did occur around 2,200 BC then how do we explain for instance that early Chinese history began nearly 500 years prior to the supposed global flood date? If the 2 dates are right then did someone jump off the ark and go back to China and continue the history?

  If the Bible is right (or at least the common inteperetation is right), then we have to conclude that all civilzation ended at the time of the flood and that all civilization as we know it started AFTER the flood. Thus we have some interesting problems to deal with in explaining civilizations that started prior to the global flood and continued on well past the date of the global flood.

  The best answer of all is that we need to have faith and that God will in his own time reveal the truth to all of us. In the meantime concentrate on how thankful we all should be that Jesus died for our sins. Please Lord, forgive those who do not believe, they know not what they do not know.

  Donkey
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  Noah...that drunken boat builder?

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've learned a ton on this forum and elsewhere which pretty much disproves noah's global flood to me personally?.

  long before this as a dub though one thing always bothered me about the account and how unreasonable it seemed even if you discount the animals.. .

  noah had three sons in 600 yrs (noah got it even less than me), his sons did not have any children before the flood.

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  donkey

  City Fan

  Good point - the "believers" then have to try and say the pyramids were built before the flood. Now as you pointed out - why is there no flood damage to the pyramids? For that matter - we have other ancient buildings/structures that have been around since before the calculated dates of the flood. Guess what - those other structures show no evidence of the massive global flood either. (There is no scum ring like you would see in the bath).

  Another point is raised: Who built the pyramids? If the pyramids were build around 2,600 BC and the flood occured around 2,200 BC we know it was not the Jewish Slaves (as is taught by dummy believers) - otherwise their own bible chronology is really messed up.

  Donkey
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  Noah...that drunken boat builder?

  by shotgun in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've learned a ton on this forum and elsewhere which pretty much disproves noah's global flood to me personally?.

  long before this as a dub though one thing always bothered me about the account and how unreasonable it seemed even if you discount the animals.. .

  noah had three sons in 600 yrs (noah got it even less than me), his sons did not have any children before the flood.

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  donkey

  Those who say they were built after the flood by Shem or Melchizidek don't mention how that's only two or three centuries after the flood tops, and how could Egypt have furnished the Pyramid builders with 100,000 men every three months if all human beings were destroyed by the flood only two centuries before?
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  Bye bye Monsanto ... don't let the door hit you on the way out

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the future of gm crops in europe which are not wanted by most people have been dealt a blow after a government study showed that they did harm wildlife.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=236839.

  so, bye bye monsanto.

  you weren't wanted here and i for one am glad you're gone.. people power.

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  donkey

  The French boys...OK, thats the media playing up on fear!! The media makes money on fear - talk about money grabbing richard-heads!!!

  Look at what happened: The 2 boys were 2 out of a group of 11 kids who inherited a disorder called "severe combined immune deficiency" (SCID) also known as "bubble boy disease". SCID patients have fairly high mortality rates - so the choice was SCID or "the new thing". In the case of the two boys who got leukemia the researchers found that the manipulated cells also turned on a gene that caused the disease.

  The other 9 boys have been cured of SCID. The 2 boys who developed leukemia were cured of SCID and treated for the leukemia - and are now considered healthy.

  As someone who appreciates the benefits of science I cannot bear to see progress stopped because of fear. True we need caution and control - not the wanton panic and Salem like mentality though. Let us not demonize things because they are new, because we don't understand the science or have not studied it fully enough. Instead of rejecting the new science - let's spend more money on it and perfect it.

  In those cases where people have a high probability of dying anyway and we can give them food or medical treatment - I say lets give it to them. If I was in their situation I would want it.

  Donkey
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  Bye bye Monsanto ... don't let the door hit you on the way out

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the future of gm crops in europe which are not wanted by most people have been dealt a blow after a government study showed that they did harm wildlife.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=236839.

  so, bye bye monsanto.

  you weren't wanted here and i for one am glad you're gone.. people power.

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  donkey

  GM crops are now being grown either in field trials or on a commercial scale in over 40 countries including Nicaragua, Honduras, Swaziland and Vietnam. In Europe commercial growing of GM Bt maize is already underway in Spain, France and Germany.

  One of the key benefits of GM - the massive reduction of pesticides!! I hope we will all be protesting the use of pesticides on our food....our "good" food is full of pesticides (in the UK also). Organic farming is aimed at reducing pesticides in "good" food. Organic farming aims for ?safe, sustainable farming systems, producing healthy crops and livestock without damage to the environment?. Organic farming relies heavily on crop rotation and the incorporation of recycled organic material (animal and so-called ?green? manures). A very limited number of simple chemical and naturally occuring pesticides are also permitted under limited circumstances. Organic is a term defined by EU law and in the UK all organic food production is governed by a strict set of rules laid down by the UK Register of Organic Food Standards. FYI...in the UK organic farming accounts for less than 0.7% of arable land!!!

  GM crops offer benfits such as increased yields, reduced pesticide usage, ease of handling, reduced erosion, energy saving and a possiblity to feed the starving masses in places where food is scarce. Unfotunately idiots like Thabo MBecki declined to use the crops...preferring to let people die of starvation.

  If there are millions of tons of GM food....and a country like Ethiopia is undergoing famine like they did 15 years ago - would we be against giving them the food?

  Donkey
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  Bye bye Monsanto ... don't let the door hit you on the way out

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the future of gm crops in europe which are not wanted by most people have been dealt a blow after a government study showed that they did harm wildlife.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=236839.

  so, bye bye monsanto.

  you weren't wanted here and i for one am glad you're gone.. people power.

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  Simon,

  You are farting against thunder.

  Many things have started out and been harmful but then later they are refined and gain broad acceptance. It will happen, by consent or by deceipt. I am not trying to be argumentative - I just see a realistic acceptance of this in the future.

  I agree that we should protest against harmful food. But they will get the processes under control. Will you argue against GM food once it is proved beneficial (assume for the sake of you answer that it will be and then think of your answer).

  Genetic engineering is in its infancy, there will be mistakes - just like other scientific fields. But consider that anti-biotics are becoming useless over time...science is now returning to techniques that we started pioneering prior to the advent of the anti-biotic: PHAGES. Phages are going to play a large part in medicine. Here too we will make mistakes - I can point to some already - but many times progress needs failure to achieve success. Will you also refuse phage-treatment in the future?

  Donkey - the dissident
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  workplace woe(s) - your opinion sought

  by DFWnonJW in

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  i work in a very small shop and the secretary has been the owner's mother-in-law.

  sadly, she has been in the hospital for the past couple of weeks and in fact the family was summoned to the hospital late this afternoon and apparently she doesn't have long to live.

  who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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  donkey

  Is she good-looking?
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  The age of the earth

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  richard bottomley, a professor of physics while speaking at an sda faith and science conference said "remember that while god has been a physicist for nearly 14 billion years, he has only been a theologian for the last six thousand years'.

  he got the biggest laugh of the day.

  the conference is being held at he present time in colorado.

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  donkey

  My mother-in-law is older than that...