By the Watchtowers stupid ************ logic then a married couple who have difficulty getting pregnant and can only have a child by In Vitro fertilaztion are indulging in group sex (even if the eggs and sperm are from the married couple).
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7Will the WTS Ban Ectogenesis?
by Mindchild inif you are keeping up with scientific developments in the health sciences you might already know that ectogenesis is the next ?big thing?
in the reproductive sciences.
by definition, ectogenesis is the development of life in an artificial environment or artificial womb.
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What are YOUR Dreams Like?
by MrMoe inmy dreams are not just like "dreams.
" they are like memories to me, and my mind can create something when i sleep with the most vivid colors, feelings, sounds, cold or damp or wet or smothering heat.
it all seems so real to me.
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donkey
There were these 7 fat cows...and 7 thin cows....
And we barbecued them all.
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What are YOUR Dreams Like?
by MrMoe inmy dreams are not just like "dreams.
" they are like memories to me, and my mind can create something when i sleep with the most vivid colors, feelings, sounds, cold or damp or wet or smothering heat.
it all seems so real to me.
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donkey
My dreams are all sad.
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Project Lucy - will it mean anything to you?
by donkey inunless we are individually related to the ostrich we know that the human genome has been successfully mapped.
we are also currently mapping the genome of the chimpanzee - a project soon to be completed (with the advent of new technology the chimp dna will be mapped much more quickly).. once we have the human dna map and the chimpanzee dna map it will become quite possible to take the dna from a human father and a chimpanzee mother and combine them.
we will then be able to insert the dna sequence into an embryo and have it carried to term by a human female.
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If the DNA's of man and chimp are so similar, why can't they sucessfully cross-breed anyway, without the intervention of modern science? If not, what does that say about the gap between man and beast?
Perhaps Ape males just find human females unnatractive?
And what if the "silly beliefs" of evolutionists are proven wrong by the inability for the DNAs of man and beast to assimilate?
See, that's just it. Science relies on evidence to make it's point. Religion relies on the lack of evidence to make it's point.
I encourage falsification of what I think because it allows me to search for truth and allows me to grow. Religion is totally against falsification - since it relies on that which cannot be proven true it cannot encourage you to prove it false either. It is the mystical that requires faith...and the twisting of the mystical that gives makes it powerful.
We will then be able to insert the DNA sequence into an embryo and have it carried to term by a human female.
If the DNA's of man and chimp are so similar, why can't they sucessfully cross-breed anyway, without the intervention of modern science? If not, what does that say about the gap between man and beast?
This will happen and it will be possible - I have very little doubt about that. Let us call the new-born baby "Lucy".
it will prove evolution true
Bit hard for you to assume something will be "proven" based on a hypothetical and expect us to discuss it as a proven fact.
the silly beliefs of many will evaporate in an instant (or at least I would hope that to be the case - but I probably over-estimate believers honesty once again).
And what if the "silly beliefs" of evolutionists are proven wrong by the inability for the DNAs of man and beast to assimilate?
Note re "honesty" - don't assume people's motives for believing what they do. In the majority of cases, it is lack of knowledge or inability to think outside the square. If nothing else, it gives them comfort that evolution doesn't provide.
What is more important - comfort or truth? When someone elses beliefs contradict our own they then make us uncomfortable and then conflicts occur when the two parties meet.
I also question scientists that claim that evolution is a fact
Do you question scientists who say the "earth is round" too?
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More tech jobs going to cheap labor in India
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/tech/biztech/10/04/india.jobs.reut/index.html
jobs abound in india's tech sector
bangalore, india (reuters) -- software engineer prakash just quit his job in bangalore, but he's not worried.
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donkey
Good reasons to donate money to the Pakistan Nuclear Fund!!
If you send money to my PayPal account I promise to send it to them.
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Project Lucy - will it mean anything to you?
by donkey inunless we are individually related to the ostrich we know that the human genome has been successfully mapped.
we are also currently mapping the genome of the chimpanzee - a project soon to be completed (with the advent of new technology the chimp dna will be mapped much more quickly).. once we have the human dna map and the chimpanzee dna map it will become quite possible to take the dna from a human father and a chimpanzee mother and combine them.
we will then be able to insert the dna sequence into an embryo and have it carried to term by a human female.
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A further question: would you classify Lucy as Human? If not - why not?
Of course I once again have to give credit where credit is due. The concept of this question and the topic of Project Lucy was raised by Richard Dawkins in an essay named "Son of Moore's Law" and you can find it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4326031,00.html
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Sacrifices - choices
by donkey ina couple of questions: .
if you could travel back in time and ended up in germany where hitler was a 5 year old child and you had the opportunity to strangle him to death with your bare hands....would you do it?
if an animal species could be saved from extinction by killing one human - would you do it?
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Damn, EMan is onto me!!
I can run but I cannot hide, heh?
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Project Lucy - will it mean anything to you?
by donkey inunless we are individually related to the ostrich we know that the human genome has been successfully mapped.
we are also currently mapping the genome of the chimpanzee - a project soon to be completed (with the advent of new technology the chimp dna will be mapped much more quickly).. once we have the human dna map and the chimpanzee dna map it will become quite possible to take the dna from a human father and a chimpanzee mother and combine them.
we will then be able to insert the dna sequence into an embryo and have it carried to term by a human female.
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Unless we are individually related to the ostrich we know that the Human Genome has been successfully mapped. We are also currently mapping the genome of the chimpanzee - a project soon to be completed (with the advent of new technology the chimp DNA will be mapped much more quickly).
Once we have the human DNA map and the Chimpanzee DNA map it will become quite possible to take the DNA from a human father and a chimpanzee mother and combine them. We will then be able to insert the DNA sequence into an embryo and have it carried to term by a human female. This will happen and it will be possible - I have very little doubt about that. Let us call the new-born baby "Lucy".
The question this raises is: What impact will the birth of Lucy society? For ance and for all (except the truly stupid individuals) it will prove evolution true and the silly beliefs of many will evaporate in an instant (or at least I would hope that to be the case - but I probably over-estimate believers honesty once again).
Would this prove to you once and for all that evolution is fact? Will it cause you to question what you have been taught by your priests nd elders? Afterall they claim this is absolutely impossible - only God can cause humans to be born.
Donkey
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Sacrifices - choices
by donkey ina couple of questions: .
if you could travel back in time and ended up in germany where hitler was a 5 year old child and you had the opportunity to strangle him to death with your bare hands....would you do it?
if an animal species could be saved from extinction by killing one human - would you do it?
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It might just be you, Teejay, who does not understand the question properly.
The question said HITLER....not just some kid for what they might do 30 years hence.
Knowing what you do of what Hitler did....(and assuming that he would do the same again)...would you kill him as a child? This type of question is similar to the question posed in the "Minority Report".
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Sacrifices - choices
by donkey ina couple of questions: .
if you could travel back in time and ended up in germany where hitler was a 5 year old child and you had the opportunity to strangle him to death with your bare hands....would you do it?
if an animal species could be saved from extinction by killing one human - would you do it?
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donkey
The Hitler question illustrates the fact that IMHO governments (society in general) are more interested in protecting rights and morals in principle than in practice. I advocate that they look at "playing the numbers" instead.
Two examples come to mind:
The legalization of drugs.
Society is on its moral high-horse and adamantly maintains that drugs are harmful and therefore need to remain illegal (with very few exceptions). This is a point solution which creates bigger problems than it solves. I am too lazy to look up the estimated number of drug users as a percentage of the population. But for now let's say it is 5% - my point will be made regardless. So by fighting the "war on drugs" we have contained the use or drugs to 5% of the population. At what cost? (forget the cost in $). We now have 100% of people affected by drugs!!! How so? 5% use them and the other 95% of us have to be subjected to the violent crimes associated with having the drugs illegal (the so called solution). If we were to legalize drugs and the usage doubled we would have 10% of the population affected by them...the rest of us would not have to live with violent crime.
Tort Reform
We need to protect the rights of victims to sue doctors for malpractice to the full extent of the law. So in protecting these victims what has it cost the rest of us? Well, with unlimited torts we have sky rocketing malpractice insurance....resulting in higher costs of healthcare and then a consequent higher cost in health care insurance. The net result? We now have over 40% of the US population without insurance. Yes, we have protected society!!! Nice job!!!
Our discontinuous minds at work once again.
Donkey