it is often said that our retinas are are an example of sub-optimal design.. a few years ago i was intrigued by a passing comment in one of nick lane's to the effect that this is not a good argument but he didn't go into much detail.. researchers at leipzig have revealed the role of glial cells in transmitting light from the surface of the retina to the cones, acting like fiber-optic cables.. erex ribak has built a model of the eye and demonstrated some fascinating details.... so, the question is - does this reflect good "design" or a retro-fitted repair like the hubble telescope's glasses?.
Morpheus: it isnt a design flaw that causes radiator leaks but normal wear and tear since rubber hoses dont self repair like our bodies.
My point.
The same thing with blood vessels that occasionally rupture (minus the sometimes self-repair part).
The fact that things--even biological things--break down is not evidence of "flaws" by design or otherwise.
it is often said that our retinas are are an example of sub-optimal design.. a few years ago i was intrigued by a passing comment in one of nick lane's to the effect that this is not a good argument but he didn't go into much detail.. researchers at leipzig have revealed the role of glial cells in transmitting light from the surface of the retina to the cones, acting like fiber-optic cables.. erex ribak has built a model of the eye and demonstrated some fascinating details.... so, the question is - does this reflect good "design" or a retro-fitted repair like the hubble telescope's glasses?.
Cantleave, I am familiar with the terminology you used. I think it is a poor one and find that many biologists avoid its use as it is often misleading.
Nevertheless, I was seeking clarification because the thrust of your post was unclear.
No need to be an insulting twit about it.
konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .
was it designed?
the inverted retina.
Phizzy: Of course, the lazy, uneducated G.B will never pick up on it, so the guy who does what we see above picks up this Month's prize for publishing B.S.
I'm sure you're right. Even if the tools that wrote the article and cited Bergman know who he is, they are counting on the fact that the average JW will NOT know who he is and that they will also NOT do an internet search to verify his credentials or the lack thereof.
i recently learned of the possibility that my son has a love child and that this child is in prison.
the child was born in the early 80s.
i learned that my ex-wife and her parents may have paid a large sum of money to the young mother (and others) in order to keep this scandal out of the press and perhaps out of earshot of the local elders.
konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .
was it designed?
the inverted retina.
Orphan Crow, I appreciate your comments about Bergman's "credentials."
That being said, and we are getting a bit off topic (but only a bit), obviously there are illegitimate diploma mills in the U.S., but a PhD program at a University of California or equivalent is a very rigorous undertaking.
I'm currently looking at a PhD in Learning Sciences from the University of Indiana. Here's the program:
Major (36 cr.)
Inquiry (15 cr.)
Minor (12 cr.)
The minor must contribute to the integrity of the program. Specific course requirements are under the direction of the minor department. Typical minors include psychology, sociology, special education, curriculum and instruction (e.g., mathematics education, science education, arts education), instructional systems technology, linguistics, informatics, cognitive science, or computer science
Dissertation (15 cr.)If you skip the minor, it's still 66 semester credits. For a working adult, that would take approximately four years to complete. This is more than twice the credits required of my MAED program from a WASC accredited university in the state in which I live.
konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .
was it designed?
the inverted retina.
UTR: For the record, I thought I was endorsing your point about the Society's foolishness in citing him as an "authority." Not only is he a well-known ex-JW and apostate, he's also a fruit loop, as far as I'm concerned.
That's what I thought. Again, I just wanted clarity.
Everyone's point about Bergman's "qualifications" being questionable only emphasize the strangeness of the WTBTS using him as a source!
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel if they have to use apostates with iffy credentials to "validate" their "science articles."
Let's review: It's a cult!
while at the assembly, when reading the financial statement, i noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so i questioned an elder and said that the assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the us branch territory.. he added this helps the society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!.
If it's truly an "equalizing," then why does the money always only flow one direction?
konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .
was it designed?
the inverted retina.
OC, thanks for clarifying. Just wanted to be sure.
I don't know much about Bergman. A few other posters here have mentioned he has credibility problems.
konceptual99, referenced this article on another thread: .
was it designed?
the inverted retina.
Orphan Crow and UnderTheRadar, I'm not trying to endorse Bergman in any way.
I'm only pointing out that it is odd that a man that is known to be an ex-JW and apostate is quoted by the WTBTS as a reliable source. I never suggested or even implied that he is.
while at the assembly, when reading the financial statement, i noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so i questioned an elder and said that the assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the us branch territory.. he added this helps the society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!.
