If you don't agree with the leadership of a group--any group, religious or otherwise--then why stay?
Oubliette
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The Secret is out....but nobody cares
by MrTheocratic ini've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.
i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.
i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.
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College Quote - Help Needed
by kp138 ini don't post on here for often, but i read posts almost daily and i love our little community of ex-jw's.
a little bit of a background i was raised in as jw but was never baptized but was a publisher and believe it wholehearedly.
my father was very strict when it came to the religion and although i really quit going in my early 20s (which broke his heart) it held a power over me until i was close the to 30. at 30 i decided to enroll in community college while working full time and got my aa last year.
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Oubliette
1) do you think it's a good idea to provide this quote on my personal statement?
First of all: Good for you for pursuing an education!
That being said: No, I do not think it's a good idea to quote the WT on your personal statement.
FYI: I'm a high school teacher in the United States and have written MANY letters of recommendation for my students. Several have gotten into very prestigious universities.
Do NOT go into your JW past. Don't do it.
If you really want to tell your story, do so with out mentioning the specifics. You could say something to the affect that you were raised in a community/culture that does not value higher education; yet in spite of that ... [your details here].
2) If so, can anybody provide the exact quote and the exact year, page etc so that I can cite it appropriately?
Yes, but I won't. See above.
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Trying to live the rest of my life without being bitter.
by Bigdummy ini'm new to this forum.. i was raised in " the truth" from age six and now i am in my mid 60's.
my wife was born in " the truth" and is very strong in the religion.
i have had many experiences during my lifetime with the other members of several congregations.
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Oubliette
Hi BD!
BD: She says I'm being picky
Isn't that how "true Christians" are supposed to be?
BD: she said she doesn't know me anymore.
Tell her, "I don't know this religion anymore!"
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Hotel Caifornia, Stairway to Heaven, Saturday Night Fever
by Butyoucanneverleave indoes anyone remember those 2 songs and that movie specifically being mentioned in the watchtower?
they were"bad" and should be avoided.
it had to be in the late 70's or early80's.
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Oubliette
BB, thanks for the references. What year was the Zep reference? -
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Help! I'm drowning!
by vinman inmy wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
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Oubliette
jhine, that's OLD OLD NEWS
I want to know what vinman meant in the OP
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Oubliette
Because it's a high-control, authoritarian cult and I no longer wanted to be part of the hypocrisy and lies.
I am so much happier now that I can life my own life and pursue what is real.
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Help! I'm drowning!
by vinman inmy wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
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Oubliette
vinman, Sorry to hear what you're going through. Everyone here has been through the emotional pain and confusion of discovering this religion is not what it claims.
That being said, what are you talking about when you refer to "worshipping Jesus"?
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Why attack?
by newqatarjob inas someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!
) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.
i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.
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Oubliette
For myself, I am angry that I was lied to and deceived by hypocrites that enforce policies that are harmful to the very people they claim to love and protect.
They have done this to millions of people.
I think that's a pretty good reason to attack something.
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If The Witnesses Try To Get You Back To Jehovah...How Will You Respond!
by minimus ini am most curious.
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Oubliette
You can't return to something you never "left"- it was all my JW friends and family that left me. They are the ones that should "return" to me.
Also, you can't return to something that no longer exists - the current JW religion is not the one I joined in the '80s.
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DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left
by Designer Stubble init appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.
it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.
the lost one i will search for2.
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Oubliette
Morpheus: Of course that brochure isnt really written for the inactive. Its written, like all things, for the sole consumption of the faithful.
I totally agree. This is damage control meant to reinforce the loyalty of those that remain. Keep telling them that people only leave for illegitimate reasons: sin, weakness, corruption, immorality, demon-possession.
Keep up the illusion that the GB members really care about those that left. Maintain the facade that elders are actively trying to "save lost sheep."
It's all bullshit for in-house consumption.
Once I was DF'd for 4 years and only once did an elder make any attempt to reach out to me. This was at a time I lived within walking distance (and I mean 1 city block) of the COBE of the congregation where I was DF'd.
It's just more propaganda from the WTBTS.
Let's review: It's a cult!