Posts by Oubliette

MNIONC: I made the mistake of telling my wife about the conversation. She is not happy. She basically told me that if I was "spiritually strong", no one would have to pick up the slack as far as headship (as seen through the eyes of the witnesses) goes.

Great job on putting the nosy brother in his place.

It was NOT a mistake to tell your wife about this. It was the right thing to do.

Do NOT let her emasculate you. This religion is designed to neuter men.

Assert yourself. You don't have to be a jerk about it. Just be real. Be calm, be firm, be clear.

We all know that "spiritually strong/weak" in JW-speak means the exact opposite of what it means in the real world.

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she passed faithful to the end to them!

by jookbeard in

just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!

feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!

Oubliette

Sorry for your loss.

Your mixed emotions are quite understandable.

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still in .. wishing for a ttatt brother in the hall

by user100 in

the entire hall was invited to a party at a brothers house after the memorial.. actually had conversations with a few people.. two guys that were recently disfellowshipped and since re-instated... would love to see what they really think about the religion.. but have no idea how to bring it up.. .

my beliefs are quite in the open (i think), i am inactive and do not comment or give talks.. i dont sing, i dont close my eyes during prayers and i dont say amen... funny though.. we were having a conversation, one of the recently re-instated asked me which service group i belong to.. my reply after some thought was... "i have no idea" .. coz seriously.. i had no idea.

wonder how that went... they all laughed it off including the pioneer drone standing next to me... i am tempted to ask them if they value freedom of speech and if so do they think we have freedom of speech in the jw religion.....

Oubliette

Now I get it.

Most JWs are nice, sincere people. They just happen to belong to a high-control, authoritarian religion that prevents people from thinking for themselves.

This kind of group is often referred to as a cult.

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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

Oubliette

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It's interesting to read the many comments on this thread regarding exceptional people: those without formal education that accomplish(ed) amazing things and those with advanced degrees that did/do little.

While these anecdotal stories can be informative, they need to be recognized for just what they are: exceptions.

This chart from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics should hopefully lend some balance to the discussion.

Why you should seriously consider the merits of a college education:

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still in .. wishing for a ttatt brother in the hall

by user100 in

the entire hall was invited to a party at a brothers house after the memorial.. actually had conversations with a few people.. two guys that were recently disfellowshipped and since re-instated... would love to see what they really think about the religion.. but have no idea how to bring it up.. .

my beliefs are quite in the open (i think), i am inactive and do not comment or give talks.. i dont sing, i dont close my eyes during prayers and i dont say amen... funny though.. we were having a conversation, one of the recently re-instated asked me which service group i belong to.. my reply after some thought was... "i have no idea" .. coz seriously.. i had no idea.

wonder how that went... they all laughed it off including the pioneer drone standing next to me... i am tempted to ask them if they value freedom of speech and if so do they think we have freedom of speech in the jw religion.....

Oubliette

I predict that you won't be getting many more invitations to JW social events.

You're better off anyways. Why would you want to hang out with a bunch of people that suppress their authentic personalities in favor of pretending to be someone else?

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Happy Easter! (A Poem)

by Oubliette in

happy easter!

i suppose you think it's funny,this eating little bunnies!it's something of a habit,to dine on chocolate rabbit.in mexico it's holy,they call: conejo mole.but here we have to beg,just to find an easter egg!it's an enigma, a riddle, an ancient springtime curse;a question i must beg,propounded thus in verse:which came first: (tick, tock)the rabbit or the egg?- - - - - - - - - - -at first i was just sad,but now i'm really mad.in fact, i'm very, very cross,so for chrissake: knock it off!

oubliette.

Oubliette

Xanthippe, as you see,
Bunnies gotta hop.
But chocolate chickens leave one sickened,
If you eat nonstop.

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I'm at a loss at how to get thru to my parents. I fear they will die before they will stop shunning me.

by cognisonance in

all i want is this: for us to be a family, to spend time together enjoying life.

i don't wish to debate about their beliefs when together.

they can remain jws for all i care.

Oubliette

"We must trust that doing things Jehovah's way, no matter how much we don't want too or how much it hurts, will be the best course of action in the long run"

How does that make ANY sense at all?

"Mom, dad: I love you both very much and would like for us to spend more time together. The only, and I mean THE ONLY, thing stopping that is you."

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The Science Is In: God Is The Answer...

by OUTLAW in

the science is in: god is the answer.

research shows kids raised with spirituality are happier and healthier in the vulnerable teen years.

why arent we all signing up?.

Oubliette

cofty: No there is no link to your source.

The article Outlaw C&P'd is from Maclean's, a Canadian weekly news magazine, reporting on Canadian issues such as politics, pop culture, and current events.

The article was written by journalists, Brian Bethune and Genna Buck.

Brian Bethune writes about ideas, books and the book trade, and religion, but what really interests him is why people believe what they believe.
Genna Buck writes about science, health, social issues and the developing world for Maclean's.

But I suspect you already know this.

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The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the Cosmos is Designed for Discovery by Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards

by Slidin Fast in

someone raised this book/film to me recently as scientific argument for intelligent design.

i have neither read it or seen it as a film (i hesitate to classify it as a documentary).

having done a little research it seems to be at the least be viewed as controversial by the scientific community.

Oubliette

"Those who raise questions about the God hypothesis and the soul hypothesis are by no means all atheists. An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence. Because God can be relegated to remote times and places and to ultimate causes, we would have to know a great deal more about the universe than we do to be sure that no such God exists. To be certain of the existence of God and to be certain of the nonexistence of God seem to me to be the confident extremes in a subject so riddled with doubt and uncertainty as to inspire very little confidence indeed." - Conversations with Carl Sagan (2006), edited by Tom Head, p. 70