fellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?
think again, sheep!
the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.
Guys, you're confusing legal ownership of property with personal liability for the actions of individuals using the property.
It looks to me like the WTBTS is setting things up so that there is more of a landlord/renter relationship between each branch and each individual congregation.
Let's review: Oh, you know how it goes!
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Stumpy, thanks for the update with the EXPECTED results in answer to your prayer.
It would seem that, although your SPECIFIC prayer was not answered, your more general, life-affirming one was.
Enjoy your movie!
lack of self-control in eating, drinking, and pursuit of pleasure;.
so, let me get this straight.
enjoying a fancy meal, appreciating the finer qualities of libations and deciding to enjoy life by pursuing pleasures (bike riding, hiking, camping, fishing, reading, movies, golfing, etc.
Blondie: As to searching "spiritually weak" try separating the words spiritually weak, no quotes
I didn't say the expression didn't appear in WT literature, clearly it does.
I said it didn't appear in the Bible, not even the rNWT.
i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.
you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!
what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.
Stumpy,
Welcome!
I just saw your thread; it's early morning here in SoCal.
I'm guessing your prayer has been answered by now (or not).
Can't wait to hear the results.
Oubliette
fellow witnesses - do you think the kingdom hall belongs to you, just because you all paid for it and personally finance its maintenance?
think again, sheep!
the "shepherds" have announced the fleecing in black & white for you, in case you decide to question them!.
Splash: [The] July 2013 WT changes when it was shown that the F&DS have not yet been appointed over all Christs belongings, meaning that the KHalls did not, in fact, belong to the GB as previously taught. As a result, maybe some congregations thought the KHalls now belonged to them.
It would be a mistake to confuse "theological" concepts with legal realities.
You can be sure that whoever is running this religion does not.
ok, so if you haven't as yet watched the new cartoon clip on the website, be prepared to throw up!.
it is called "jehovah loves all sorts of people", and features an awful song about how "jehovah loves everyone" even "different colors", etc....yep...they actually say that!.
huh??????.
NY44M, oh you're no fun!
There ya' go being all logical!
ok, so if you haven't as yet watched the new cartoon clip on the website, be prepared to throw up!.
it is called "jehovah loves all sorts of people", and features an awful song about how "jehovah loves everyone" even "different colors", etc....yep...they actually say that!.
huh??????.
Q: How can you show it too? By shunning anyone that disagrees with you.
So go out and love all sorts of people, except gay ones, people with differing beliefs, former JWs, current JWs that speak out against injustices and wrongdoing in the organization ... you get the idea!
Let's review: It's a cult!
as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.
i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.
dated 1/16/98 it opens : .
Wasn't this letter part of the discovery process in the Conti case?
If so, the actual letter (or a facsimile) should be available online as part of the public court records.
i have thought about how ttatt came full circle for me.
how the connecting the dots was simple and just made sense,.
how silos of information are literally at our fingertips today.. why is it that the ones we love cannot get ttatt?.
D4G, I totally agree that the majority of manipulators don't read some book on How to Manipulate and Control Others, but that doesn't mean that some people do not.
The WTBTS has published many articles on the subject proving that they have at some time given conscious thought to the subject. (See for example the series of articles on the subject of Propaganda in the June 2000 Awake! magazine).
Again, CD theory explains why many people continue to hold on to beliefs that are demonstrably wrong.
There are a large number of manipulative techniques which do not require disconfirming evidence and a corresponding "doubling down" on the part of the person being manipulated.
For example, Fear, Obligation and Guilt are classic ways that manipulators seek to control others. The person being controlled may or may not rationalize their involvement and participation. Cognitive dissonance is not necessary nor is it always involved in the process.
as many of us saw in the pbs news hour program and the abc news nightline program the elders from one congregation failed to communicate properly to the elders in another congregation concerning the child molester jonathan kendrick when he moved to a new congregation.
i have parts of this " introduction letter " from the fremont congregation to the oakley congregation elders so you can read it for yourself and decide how irresponsible these wt appointed elders were.
dated 1/16/98 it opens : .
Ok then, they mention he has anger issues, recognize that he has an interest in "young ones," without disclosing what that is and completely fail to mention his history of molestation!
Nice.
Let's review: It's a cult!
