Posts by Oubliette

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Bye bye Gromit . .

by nicolaou in

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loyal pooch protected my identity for more than a decade, time for a rest old pal.. yep, that's the real me in my new avatar all stubbly and snoozing in the afternoon sun.

call me nic' or call me mike, it's all good.

Graduating college May 14. Update on Getting my GED and going to college thread from 5 years ago.

by noni1974 in

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187163/getting-my-ged-can-go-college.

i started this topic 5 years ago letting everyone know i had decide to get my ged and go to college in hopes of getting an education so that i could have a career instead of just a job.

i wanted fulfillment and a future, not just another job that has no really future in it.

Oubliette

Noni, congrats on your accomplishment!

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Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

by RayPublisher in

for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

follow isaac's story here:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

Oubliette

RayPublisher: How many JW apostasy trials (with recorded video) have been posted online? How many have you posted? Where are the others bc I would love to see them!

Ok, I admit it. I was wrong.

I was thinking of other videos of JCs without considering that they weren't technically about "apostasy."

And some of the other JC recordings which I had in mind which were about "apostasy" were only audio.

Whether I posted them or not is irrelevant.

Thanks for sharing!

Oubliette

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i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

by user100 in

so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

Oubliette

Flamegrilled, thanks for responding.

You misunderstood a lot of what I said and inferred things I never implied.

For example, I never said, "not to worry," as if life is all EGBOK (everything's gonna be OK) once you realize that the elders only have the authority you give them.

I'm well aware of how much damage this cult can do. My own children shun me because of the messed up rules and practices of this cult. My oldest has barely spoken to me in half a dozen years. This religion ruins families as a result of it authoritarian, high-control practices.

Let me repeat the most important part of that: THIS RELIGION RUINS FAMILIES!

The elders instructed my children to shun me and they listened and obeyed the elders. I told the elders that they did not have the right to tell my children to do this.

After that, I personally went through the humiliating process of being reinstated even though I had woken up to TTATT and was well aware of all of the hypocrisy and lies of the WT leadership. I did this in an attempt to reconcile with my children. So I am well aware of what can happen.

Nevertheless, through it all I learned a lot of valuable lessons, the most important one being true to oneself and realizing that the elders only have as much authority over us as we grant them. We can't control other people. It's and illusion to think so. Perhaps we can influence them. Even that is hard to do.

Our actions have consequences. Our in-actions do too. Being true to oneself is really the most important thing.

Ultimately, the most important relationship we have in this life is the one we have with our self.

Oubliette

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Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

by jwleaks in

the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

for the record, this is what has been removed:.

*** rs pp.

Oubliette

Interesting. Thanks for sharing!

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

Oubliette

FMF: Pretty jesus heavy, I don't see the name of the desert god anywhere.

FRIDAY AFTERNOON - 2:05 SYMPOSIUM: Imitate Jehovah by Imitating Jesus

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Regional Convention 2015 - Program

by Designer Stubble in

friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

Oubliette

SATURDAY MORNING - 10:20 SYMPOSIUM: Imitate Jesus, Not the Pharisees

Someone should make sure the GB members listen attentively to that talk.

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i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

by user100 in

so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

Oubliette

Flamegrilled: I'm surprised they don't seem to understand the stress that this situation can cause.

I don't know if you're referring to my comments, but I can assure you that I DO KNOW the stress that these situations cause. In fact, I know it all too well.

Things changed for me when I realized a couple of things:

Most of the things I worried might happen, never did,
Even when some of them did happen, it rarely was as bad as I expected, and most importantly,
The elders only have as much power and authority over any of us as we give them.

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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friends

i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Oubliette

Shouldn't you just be able to say "sorry, I don't believe this anymore" and just leave???

You can. But anyone and everyone that is still believing will shun you. They are stuck in the religion/cult. You don't have to be.

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What bad habits have you picked up since leaving the Borg.

by James Mixon in

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i went back to smoking and gambling but the good habits out weigh.

the bad ones, like lying to people.

is't fraud against the law, the practice.

Oubliette

Caring about people that aren't in my exclusive cult

Criticizing cult

Thinking independently and for myself

Watching whatever kinds of movies I want

Listening to whatever kind of music I want

Reading whatever kinds of books I want

Having whoever I want as my friend

Getting a master's degree (in education for those that like details)

Having the occasional cigar

Sleeping in on weekends

Posting here

Counseling some young people I knew that were/are in this cult and left/are leaving

Damn, I'm an evil, wicked person!!!