Oubliette

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  I'm late to the party on this Gog of Magog change...

  by sd-7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so this may 2015 study edition...i know you guys have talked about it already, but wow.

  this is classic.

  mostly i like to revel in the presentation of these changes.

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  "However, there were some problems with this explanation."

  sd-7, I just did a word search in the May 15th, 2015 WT and could not find this sentence.

  Where did you find it?
  
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  Assembly Survival Kit

  by pronomono in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so, i've got the assembly tomorrow, or so the wife says.

  i should have bought this in preparation..... .

  http://cdn.blessthisstuff.com/imagens/stuff/gentlemans-survival-kit-2.jpg.

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  I love it!

  What's in the round tin in the middle?
  
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  Would you give your life for those that shun you?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'no one has greater love than this, that someone would lay down his life for his friends.'.

  many have been hurt by the practice of shunning.

  family members, [former?

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  For some select few: Yes, absolutely yes.

  For a few others: Maybe, it would probably depend on the situation.
  

  For most: No fucking way!
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  Would you give your life for those that shun you?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  'no one has greater love than this, that someone would lay down his life for his friends.'.

  many have been hurt by the practice of shunning.

  family members, [former?

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  They're in a cult under mind-control.

  Searcher and cookie master nailed it.
  
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  What do you think? Should chimpanzees be granted 'personhood'?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there's a current court case in ny which is hearing that question right now.

  the precise issue is the continued captivity of two chimpanzees, (leo and hercules, names bestowed by humans) in a medical research laboratory at stony brook university.. i suggest that the application has some merit.

  are not all of us "animals?

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  They are a separate, distinct species.

  This does not in any way suggest that we, as humans, shouldn't seriously reconsider our treatment of animals in general and certain other species in particular. But chimpanzees can never be "people" because they aren't.

  Words have meaning and changing the definition to fit our personal "beliefs" or "worldview" or "fantasy-of-how-life/the universe/and everything should be" does not change reality.

  It just doesn't.

  We can all hug and sing "Kumbaya" but the world is still a messy place where there are snakes in the grass and lions eat antelopes.
  
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  How hard is it to attend a congregation outside of the territory where you live? Consequences for doing so.

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  i need to change congregation but stay living in the same place.

  any experience with this.

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  Why do you want to change congregations?
  
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  How hard is it to attend a congregation outside of the territory where you live? Consequences for doing so.

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  i need to change congregation but stay living in the same place.

  any experience with this.

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  Hoser, you are obviously under the impression that you need to obey the elders and the WTBTS. You don't.
  

  The only have authority over you if you give it to them.
  
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  How hard is it to attend a congregation outside of the territory where you live? Consequences for doing so.

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i need to change congregation but stay living in the same place.

  any experience with this.

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  Just go. Or better yet, just stop going.
  
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  Convention Cartoon

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so last night they played the convention cartoon.

  there were a few laughs from the audience, overall though people seemed a little taken aback and tight lipped.

  like no one gushed about it afterwards, no applause, just like it was nothing new at all.

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  I just talked to a local JW and they said it wasn't shown in their hall.

  Is this only being shown just before a DC?
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  "Normal family affections and dealings" continue - If only?!?

  by LHS123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am new to this forum - it is only a couple of weeks since i have allowed myself to acknowledge and research my doubts.

  i am trying to be fair by reading both sides of the story and considering jw official explanation of confusing matters.

  one of the issues i have been looking at is shunning - and i was shocked to see the misleading information about shunning on the jw.org website: .

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  Oubliette

  Vidiot: ... if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended. I actually want to get this tattooed somewhere.

  How about on the forehead of each member of the GB!