I've read the first two. If you're only going to read one, the second would be my pick. It has less biographical information concerning Hassan's experience as a Moonie and more info on helping yourself and/or loved ones getting out of and over being in a cult:
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Which Steve Hassan book?
by Tornintwo incan anyone recommend which steve hassan book to read, i see there are 3.. my mind is all over the place during this process of finally acknowledging and researching my doubts, ive been recommended his books on here, but which one is best?.
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California Supreme Court Case - S226656
by Gayle inhttp://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.
started 5/27/2015.
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From three years ago:
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What is Your Brainwashing IQ ? Take the Quiz
by Finkelstein inso how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?
essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.
http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.
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"I think creative open minded people are VERY skeptical about things."
This particular question and its corresponding answer were not worded as clearly as they could have been.
The fact is that creativity and skepticism are separate, unrelated traits. One can have one without the other.
Being skeptical can help one resist being manipulated, whereas having a creative mind can actually make a person easier to manipulate if they are not aware of the techniques of manipulation or do not possess the other traits which can protect an individual from being brainwashed.
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Why did the org "forgive" KH mortgages?
by Magnum ini know this has been discussed, but i think it's good that topics like this get brought back up from time to time for the sake of newbies and lurkers, plus, i have a question (related at end of post).. the org brags about "forgiving" kh mortgages as if it's so loving and giving.
i put the word in quotation marks because most of us realize it wasn't forgiving anything.
the new arrangement should actually bring it far more money.. for example, suppose there are twenty congregations total.
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New Watchtower-- the End is coming in our lifetime again now??
by FusionTheism inthey just posted the simplified august study watchtower on jw.org.. paragraph 11 of the "expectation!
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"so even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime.".
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FT: "So even if we feel that we have been waiting a long time, this does not mean that the end is far away or that it is not coming in our lifetime."
It also doesn't mean it IS.
Actually, it doesn't mean jack shit.
They've been saying this crap for well over 100 years and have taken advantage of millions of gullible people.
Wake up! You're defending a fucking doomsday cult!
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What is Your Brainwashing IQ ? Take the Quiz
by Finkelstein inso how much do you understand about brainwashing, its application and effects ?
essentially lures people into its grasps and then brainwashes them for exploitation and manipulative purposes by using mental indoctrination techniques.. here's a quick quiz to take to answer some of these questions.
http://voicesfordignity.com/brainwashing-iq/.
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A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)
by FusionTheism ina whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).
i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.
the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).
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FT: Very soon I will be writing a condensed version of this (in the form of questions) to the Governing Body/Society just to see what their response (if any) will be.
Get ready to become one of us evil "apostates," summarily disfellowshipped and shunned.
Better get your house in order.
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A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)
by FusionTheism ina whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).
i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.
the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).
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FT: What good has being "an apostate" (in the sense of rabidly opposing and hating the Governing Body) done in the past 60 years to bring about any changes or downfall of the Society?
There are several problems with this question.
- First, most "apostates" are only thus because the WT/JW policies brand them as such.
- Secondly, what makes you think we "apostates" want to change/reform/destroy the WT?
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I for one am too busy living to try and engage in such pointless foolishness.
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A Whole New Watchtower Society (Governing Body 3.0 / Simplified Society)
by FusionTheism ina whole new watchtower society (governing body 3.0 / simplified society).
i'm not here to attack the governing body, watchtower society, or the jehovah's witnesses (jw) organization.
the bible says there is just "one hope" for christians (ephesians 4:4).
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So FT, you agree with 5 relatively pedestrian "teachings" of the GB (all of which, by the way, are not the sole, exclusive property of those august gents).
BUT YOU DISAGREE WITH 9 VERY SIGNIFICANT "TEACHINGS" OF THE GB, MORE THAN HALF OF WHICH ARE ARGUABLY ONLY TAUGHT BY JWS!
Get the clue: you're in a cult!
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Would you like to live for ever on earth?
by fulano ini was discussing this topic with two friends of mine, ex jws, a few nights ago.
i think it would be boring after a while.
you can't smoke, have to drink with moderation (difficult in europe with all the wines).
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