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  WATCHTOWER AND BULLSHIT VIEWS ON SCIENCE (THE WATCHTOWER JUNE 2015)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  the watchtower june 2015 (bullshit).

  the latest watchtower (online at j-dub dot argh!

  ) features a hilarious article.

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  Let's play their game:
  

  "Some scientists feel that if the God of the Bible exists, they should be able to find him." - w15, 6/1, p. 3

  Yes we do!

  Why play hide and seek, that's sort of a childish thing to do isn't it?
  
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  WATCHTOWER AND BULLSHIT VIEWS ON SCIENCE (THE WATCHTOWER JUNE 2015)

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
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  the watchtower june 2015 (bullshit).

  the latest watchtower (online at j-dub dot argh!

  ) features a hilarious article.

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  “the absence of evidence for any God who plays an important role in the universe proves beyond a reasonable doubt that such a god does not exist.” Victor J Stenger, Professor of Physics

  It's not too surprising the WT writers DO NOT provide a source. This is their standard modus operandi. Their consistent failure to use standard academic practices when quoting others is one of the things that got me to start questioning.
  

  That being said, I'm kind of surprised they'd quote this. It doesn't exactly help their cause.
  
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  Awake! The silent treatment

  by punkofnice in

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  an awake!tm article about shunning spouses.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201306/the-silent-treatment/#?insight[search_id]=f6240b1c-2a33-4ac9-a50b-f2130feaa43e&insight[search_result_index]=0 .

  apparently it's retaliation and manipulation.. i wonder what they think about shunning df'd or da'd victims?.

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  Great, they admit that "the silent treatment" is:

  • Manipulation
  • Retaliation and
  • A form of revenge
  • It erodes respect
  • Is "A tactic that, at best, works only short-term,"
  • It "runs counter to the Bible's admonition

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  And yet they require all R&F members to do this for extended, indefinite periods to any and all that disagree with those in charge.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Richard Dawkins talking about a Creator

  by FusionTheism in

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  richard dawkins admitted that information inside of dna, and the origin of life on earth, might point to intelligent designers, perhaps extraterrestrials.

  (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boncjbrrdq8 )richard dawkins further admitted, in a debate with francis collins for time magazine, that science might point to a creator existing, but that this creator might not be anything like yahweh:.

  time: "could the answer be god?

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  Ruby: I find viv and cofty just too hostile to reply to

  When you say "hostile" do you mean ruthlessly rational? Requiring logic, reason and evidence?

  Then I'd agree. They are both way too hostile.
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

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  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  oppostate: Are they then asking all the JW males to sing at the highest of the ordinary adult male range. Maybe? I'm thinking BeeGees or Pewie Herman, maybe even Tiny Tim... "Tiptoe through the tulips..."

  No. You are confusing a vocal range with a characteristic of a particular thing. This is similar to the mistake the writers of the letter made. The letter shows that they don't really know what they are asking.

  The Bee Gees were known for their tight- three part harmonies, in particular Barry's falsetto became their signature sound. Tiny Tim was also known for singing in falsetto. I wouldn't know about Pee Wee Herman.
  

  
  
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

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  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  SnuggleBunny, great picture. It perfectly captures the mood in an un-posed moment!
  
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

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  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

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  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  warehouse: For talks and general listening it should be at an average of 68db. For singing and such, you should be at a max of 85db. Typically the amps at the cong. level should hit the protect limit at 100db or so.

  I know you're just being sarcastic, but when I worked sound at the Circuit Assemblies and District Conventions in SoCal we would actually use a dB meter to help calibrate our sound systems.

  That was the TECHNICAL/OBJECTIVE means of measuring. But we knew we had the volume "just right" when we got equal amounts of complaints that the sound was too loud/not loud enough! ... lol
  

  BTW, your dB settings seem a little on the high side to me.
  

  
  
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  Re: Music at Theocratic Events

  by pixel in

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  this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

  i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

  and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

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  "We should avoid making specific rules. . . . but we just can't help ourselves!"
  

  For a bunch of micro-managing twits, you think they'd be a little more careful with their vocabulary.

  Twice they misused the word "tenor" in connection with the musical accompaniment.
  

  1. "Also, give thought to what would have been the tenor and tone of the singing of Jesus and his eleven faithful apostles at the conclusion of the Lord’s Evening"
  2. "It is important to take note of the tenor and tempo of our Kingdom songs."

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  While it is true that in general, non-musical, parlance, the word "tenor" can mean: the drift of something spoken or written, when it is used in a musical context it has a very specific meaning which is completely different. Generally, it means the musical part above the bass (the lowest part in multi-part writing); in reference to vocal music it means:

  • The highest natural adult male signing voice or the person having that voice.

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  People shouldn't talk about things they don't understand.

  Apparently the Governing Body members do not understand this. So not only are they making rules when they themselves write that they shouldn't, they are making rules about things they don't even understand.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  

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  Source: Tenor - Merriam-Webster
  
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  this weeks bible highlights: Jehovah slaughters his own people to teach David a lesson

  by nowwhat? in

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  from 2 samuel 24. i am so mad at myself for not making a comment how could anyone explain this away?

  then after he slaughters 70,000 he then feels regret?

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