Orphan Crow, I get your point, but that's not how it works in adversarial legal systems. "Experts" are hired by both sides to prove their side and only their side.
You're confusing theoretical science with the legal system.
i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.
also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!
never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.
Orphan Crow, I get your point, but that's not how it works in adversarial legal systems. "Experts" are hired by both sides to prove their side and only their side.
You're confusing theoretical science with the legal system.
i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.
also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!
never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.
S&R: I am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.
Why should you be shocked that someone did what they were hired to do and nothing more?
She is an "expert witness," not a researcher.
i'm just listening to this so called doctors testimony.
where did the watchtower dig her up from.
her answers have mostly been maybe's and i think!.
Mad Sweeney: I'm starting to think this might be a cult.
I'm starting to think you might be right!
to all bodies of elders.
re: spiral binding of shepherding textbook.
dear brothers :.
by popular demand i give you day 4, and i will finally get a couple of days to sleep .
part 1 has been uploaded and part 2,3 and 4 will soon be available.. part 1:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lmlcdqesa0&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui&index=11.
C0ntr013r, thanks for posting these!
Very important stuff.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
S&R: Yet the average JW knows far more than him about what goes on and simp,y [sic] ignores it.
I have to disagree. From both my personal experience and reading those of countless members of this board, it is clear that the majority of "average JWs" do NOT know what goes on. They are insulated from being aware of the scope of problems with their religion and are indoctrinated to believe that the problems they do know about are exceptions and isolated instances due to "the imperfections of men."
This is why something like this RC is so huge, it reveals the true scope of the massive, institutional cover-up which the WT leadership has systematically implemented for decades.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
So she DOES know that the GB is the theoretical head of this organization. She also knows that JWs believe elders are appointed by Holy Spirit.
Funny how she suddenly "remembers" details when specifically queried.
She even knows there are "other kinds of overseers" besides just elders.
So her show of apparently limited knowledge earlier was just an act. Figures.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
I couldn't really hear her responses to all of the queries, but it seems that Applewhite may in fact be aware of some of the confidential branch materials.
She admitted that she had NEVER considered any independent materials regarding Jehovah's Witnesses!
She also admitted that she never reviewed any specific cases of sexual abuses among JWs, but has ONLY reviewed what JW's claim they do. She is claiming she has no knowledge of their actual practices or implementation!
Unbelievable!!!
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
Now we're finding out what "literature" means. So far she is saying it's material that's been published online.
She is definitely hedging to the point of evasiveness.
Nevertheless, if that's true then that implicitly means she does NOT know about any confidential materials: elder's manuals, branch letters and BOE letters.
The RC representative just nailed her with the fact that JW online materials are only dated from the year 2000 to the present.
Applewhite seems to believe that older publications are available online.
https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
Mad Sweeney: I wonder whether the "Literature" she was asked to review included the Branch manual that says it is ok to make a pedophile an elder.
I'm thinking: NO, not that literature!