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  Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

  by Viviane in

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  2. beliefs

  recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

  i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

  first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

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  Great thread!

  Can't wait to really read it in detail. Until then, here is a short list of critical thinking skills that everyone should have in their toolkit:

  • Analyzing for assumptions
  • Analyzing evidence
  • Analyzing arguments (the validity of statements)
  • Asking effective questions
  • Classifying
  • Comparing and contrasting
  • Deductive reasoning
    
  • Evaluating sources (for reliability and bias)
  • Finding causes
  • Inductive reasoning (generalizing)
    
  • Inferring
  • Organizing information
  • Predicting (scientific predictions, not astrology or palm reading, in case you were wondering)
  • Problem solving
  • Reasoning by analogy
  • Recognizing patterns
  • Synthesizing
    
  • Understanding models
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Viv: Complain that Viv is a big old meanie

  I didn't know you were big or old! ... lol
  
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  The Rebel: I do want you to be doing my homework for me

  Hahahahahahaha!

  
  
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  VI: I can't believe this thread has gotten so long.

  That's what I was gonna' say.
  

  Vivian: This is why we need to teach critical thinking starting in kindergarten.

  Amen to that, sista'
  
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  So, I became very ill ... what did my loving brothers do?

  by EdenOne in

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  2. beliefs

  recently i have fallen ill with a serious case of chickenpox (shingles).

  three weeks down, high fevers, and the blisters attacked mostly my scalp and face, but then also my whole upper body.

  i looked horrid, truly like a mutant monster out of a nuclear disaster.

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  Chicken pox sucks, especially as an adult. I know, I got them when I was in college.

  Glad you're better. Sorry you're getting yet another lesson that JWs are not what they really claim to be.
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  Convention Video System

  by wifibandit in

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  convention video system

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  It's odd that the Audience Wide Shot shows a pretty empty house.
  
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  An Obvious Contradiction Mr Stewart is Missing

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  all jws on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.. if the law does not require it then bible principles absolutely prevent them from taking away rights of the victim to report abuse to the police or not.. we have already heard from a jw rep a couple of days ago who proudly asserted that when the law conflicts with bible principle they will always obey the bible and quoted acts 5:29 "we must obey god rather than men".. please join the dots!.

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  All JWs on the stand have stuck to the same line that they have no problem with cooperating with mandatory reporting when state law requires it.

  And yet, as Angus Stewart pointed out in his opening address:

  #69 - Evidence will be put before the Royal Commission that of the 1,006 alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse identified by the Jehovah’s Witness Church since 1950, not one was reported by the Church to secular authorities. This suggests that it is the practice of the Jehovah’s Witness Church to retain information regarding child sexual abuse offences but not to report allegations of child sexual abuse to the police or other relevant authorities. - [Emphasis and highlighting added]

  Not one, not a single one in 65 years. That is a spectacularly stunning failure.