Posts by Oubliette

TR: A good point Viv and Oubliette, but as you can see from the link, it was not myself, but this privaliged school that referred to the topic " Did man land on the moon?" As a debate.

I went to the school link you provided and saw nothing that mentioned any debate on the question you posted.

I did a keyword search from the school's homepage and got this result:

Search Results for "moon land"

Nothing Found

Sorry, but nothing matched your search terms. Please try again with some different keywords.

That being said, the Kenninghall Primary School (KPS) does have a cute little page titled "Our Friends on the Moon" showing a classroom full of fresh-faced, little darlings with cute handmade drawings of aliens!!!

WTF?!? Clearly, conveying accurate scientific facts, knowledge or thinking is not high on the agenda of the teacher in this particular classroom.

To the contrary, this is obviously a class where science-fiction and fantasy are taught, not critical thinking and evidence-based argumentation.

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On the other hand, in a different class at KPS, one teacher had their students build Moon Buggies, which would tend to disconfirm your thesis in the OP:

Interestingly, many of this English made "moon buggies" were sporting American flags. Thanks, mates!

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Those in Denial Hate Exposure And Being Forced To Face The Truth

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think if you look at the governing body and the efforts they will go to cover up their crimes against humanity i can rest my case.. the governing body are in great emotional pain as they are being brought to court over these denial issues, expect to see great distortions of fact and compartmentalization going on and them getting owned for it as they are called to court to testify before a tribunal which will hang them because it..

Oubliette

Cognitive Dissonance is a bitch and she particularly hates religious hypocrites!

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I had requested them to put shepherding concerns in writing.

by quincemyles in

last week, i had requested the elders to put their shepherding concerns in writing and that only one elder visits me because i am uncomfortable with two.

well, today they approached me and said we are not able to write to you and we are going to see you the two of us.

i felt how inconsiderate and disrespectful of individuals the watchtower machinery is.

Oubliette

They pulled a scripture in John were the disciples asked "where shall we go to? you have sayings of everlasting life."

No. It actually reads:

Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life."

Peter clearly understood he was talking about a person, not an organization or a place.

This is one of the most commonly misquoted and misapplied scriptures in JW-land.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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BBC article comparing teaching styles between UK and China

by RedPillPopper in

here is a bbc article on how a experiment compared teaching styles of china and uk.

i thought this paragraph summed up perfectly the way the borg "teaches" their members.......(i underlined important points).

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33806511.

Oubliette

Oh the irony:

THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion. - Awake!, June 22, 2000, pp. 9-11 – [Emphasis added]

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

Oubliette

Viviane: It's not a debate. For it to be a debate, there would have to be valid evidence on both sides.

Thank you!

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Today's WT glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and therefore immortality

by purrpurr in

in today's wt study it makes the point that just glancing at the opposite sex is flirting and can lead to sex!.

so are jw's now to wear blinkers?.

also jw's are told to go and confess to the elders if they have any immoral thoughts?!!.

Oubliette

What Heaven said.

As a general rule, JWs are sexually repressed and behave accordingly.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

Oubliette

TR: Do you think the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a war crime or a terrible act of war?

Finally, a serious subject for discussion!

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

Oubliette

if children of 10 can learn to copy a Rembrant why can't they learn to question?

No reason. But one has nothing to do with the other. Also, learning to question is not the same as wasting time debating ridiculous conspiracy theories.

By the way, there's a "D" in Rembrandt. Look it up.

if children of 10 can be taught to play chess to a high standard why can't a child of 10 be taught " The Answers Exist" it's the " Questions, that do not"

Does that make sense to you? That question is incoherent. You're scaring me!

How old was Anne Frank when she started her diary? 14 I believe.

Well that's irrelevant.

How old was Mesi when he made his professional debut? 14 I believe.

Do you mean the soccer player? What the heck does he have to do with the subject under discussion?!? More irrelevant nonsense.

That's a major WTF!

Romeo and Juliette, although fictional were 14.

Are you seriously citing fictional characters to support your point?

Since you brought them up: you do know they killed themselves, don't you?

You as a " professional" educator seem to think I am really stupid. Why?

I'm pretty sure I've never called you stupid. I think this conspiracy theory of yours is stupid and I also think the idea of having 14 year old kids debate it in school is stupid.

Which brings up a good point: you obviously misunderstood my objection to having 14 year olds debate the moon landing. It has nothing to do with their age. It is because IT IS A STUPID SUBJECT TO DEBATE! Do you get it now?

[I highlighted it, made it bold, italicized, CAPITALIZED and in RED]. If you don't get it now, you never will.

BTW, why do you put "professional" in quotes. Don't you believe me? I don't doubt you're who and what you say your are.

Oubliettte i admit I probably do not fit in to your intellectual snobbery ...

So now I"m a "snob" because I don't agree with you and think you've floated some ridiculous ideas.

Why don't you discuss the SUBJECT and not the person. Ad hominem attacks are insipid.

(BTW, there are only two "T's" in my moniker.)

I have a successful marriage, a well balanced child of 10 who can fish, play football and can question. I can play guitar, sell my art so I don't need to work. I have my mortgage paid off, whatever

Good for you. However, it's just more irrelevant data.

I'm a gourmet cook, an accomplished amateur photographer and a fantastic lover.

I am also a published poet and journalist.

As an educator, I've had students attend a variety of distinguished institutions of higher education: UCLA, Boston University, Berklee College of Music, Berkeley University, San Francisco State University, just to mention a few. One my former students was just offered and accepted a doctoral research Fellowship at the University of California, Riverside. His research area is Molecular Biology.

Since you're bringing up music, I've written music for film, television and the theater and have performed in a wide variety of studio and live ensembles.

A prolific composer, I have had several of my orchestral compositions performed by the London Symphony Orchestra.The recording was done at Abbey Road Studios in London, Simon Rhodes engineered and Brynmore Llewelyn Jones conducted.

What, do you want to start measuring dick sizes next?

...I can also believe the UNIVERSES may be flat, and question that man landed on the moon.

Believe what you want. Believing doesn't make it so.

This is one of the key things to be learned here in this forum for ex- and wannabe ex-JWs.

Have the courage and intellectual honesty to understand that.

Anyway my question to you Oubliette, why have you on each post you have made on this thread tried to undermine my point of view, and make me look foolish on a wide world web?

I have not made you look foolish. You've done that all by yourself.

As to why do I keep posting? Because you keep PMing me and inviting me back. Doh!

You must have some serious unresolved masochistic tendencies.

To me this is not how a professional educator behaves.

Really? How would you know? This isn't school and you're not my student.

As Viviane pointed out above, this is an internet "public discussion" forum. You post, we respond. You don't like it, quit reading and continuing the discussion.

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Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

by The Rebel in

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so i was fooled by the witnesses.

what can i learn from that?

not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

Oubliette

Am i correct from your post that according to you children of elementary school can not debate the moon landing?

Yes you are.

Why?

I already answered that: it's a stupid subject to debate. But I'm not surprised you don't get it. We're on page 42 of this thread and you still don't get it.

I hope you've laid in a good supply of tin-foil hats.