Posts by Oubliette

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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..

by adimmedlight in

warning, novel ahead:.

after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.

i am the oldest of 5 kids.

Oubliette

Welcome!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

Listener: Oubliette's chart is more accurate ...

That's funny. And I don't even believe this shit.

I actually seriously believe they plagiarized my chart. I posted it on this site in response to the January 15, 2014 WT more than a year and a half ago.

They didn't refer to Fred Franz in that article. Now they do.

FayeDunaway: Oubliette, they should have copied your graph more precisely, it's a lot better!!! Theirs is a mess TRYING to be yours

Agreed. Although I think they have come to like being a bit more vague. It gives them more wiggle room later on, not that they need it. The faithful JWs will swallow without question any bullshit the GB print.

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015): Serving Single - Do not use JW dating sites!

by Designer Stubble in

around the 39:00 minute mark the focus shifts to a single sister who cannot find a mate.

at the 42:30 minute mark she states "i cannot believe it crossed my mind...to look on jw dating sites".

guess a new unwritten rule is added to the many oral traditions of these pharisees.

Oubliette

How ironic: No use of DATING sites, meanwhile Splane is trying to explain their DATING to prove we are in the last days.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

This Overlapping Generation teaching is really complete nonsense.

I year or so ago, I trying to wrap my head around the latest "update" to it in that week's WT Study article; not to try and understand it--because, hey, it's nonsense--but to make clear to any lurkers how silly and implausible it all is. - Watchtower, January 15, 2014, p. 30-31, paragraphs 14 - 16.

Here's my take on it then and now (see also my chart posted above):

So, apparently, there are now three groups of "anointed" ones:

Those anointed before 1914
Those anointed after 1914, but before the death of the last of those in group #1.
Those anointed after the death of the last person in group #1. (See point #2 above)

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Although not mentioned in the January 2014 article, the key person in this concept is Frederick William Franz. Born in 1893, Franz was baptized in 1913 or 1914, making him part of the first group. He is also presumably the last person of the first group to die. Franz died on December 22, 1992.

According to the January 2014 WT, the first two groups comprise the "this generation" that Jesus mentioned at Matthew 24:34, albeit in an "overlapping" manner. The third group is explicitly NOT part of "this generation."

Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. - w2014, 1/15, p. 32, para. 16

Careful readers of this month's talk by Splane and previous study articles will note that there is no scriptural references or evidence of any kind to support this new twist on the "Overlapping Generation" idea. It is all just unfounded assertion.

But hey, who needs evidence when you're the leaders of a cult.

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

It is more than likely that Mark Sanderson did not begin partaking until AFTER Fred Franz died. This means that he is categorically NOT a member of the "second part" of the "overlapping generation." This is, I believe, the reason why the WT writers came up with the third group of "anointed ones" a little more than a year ago.

Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke.- WT, January 15, 2014, p. 31, paragraph 16

Classic cult damage control to explain away Marky-Mark.

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

They just plagiarized this chart I made a year and a half ago to point out how stupid this teaching is:

I think mine is more clear, but that's just me!

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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

by C0ntr013r in

i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

Oubliette

The Rebel: but it's not such a big deal.

Are you kidding?

THEY, the GB, tell the Rank & File to "keep their eye simple" yet THEY wear bling that very few people can afford.

THEY claim to represent Jehovah and oppress their followers with endless rules and constantly extort them for money with guilt and manipulation, yet THEY live like rock stars. And who pays for this un-christian lifestyle? The flock that's getting fleeced.

THEY are complete hypocrites. It IS a big deal. Get the clue!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Participate In The EX-JW Personality Test!

by C0ntr013r in

first of all; i must admit that i'm not a huge fan of putting people in boxes like this, it is not an exact science.

but i still think the data can be quite interesting and i intend to collect it and share it in a structured way with you guys.

so without future ado here are the details.. link to test: .

Oubliette

I thought a lot of your questions were poorly worded as they were based on false dichotomies:

For example:

As a parent, you would rather see your child grow up kind than smart

I would rather my children are kind than unkind. Intelligence is a completely different trait. Your question implies that smart people are necessarily unkind. There is no correlation.

Your dreams tend to be vivid and focus on a fictional world.

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My dreams are vivid AND focused on creating a new reality based upon hard work making possibilities come true.

You would rather improvise than spend time coming up with a detailed plan.

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I can improvise and am comfortable doing it, but I like have a plan too.

You focus on the possibilities rather than the realities.

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I can easily focus on both.

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Not one single head was lost on the wife birthday!!!!

by James Mixon in

a surprised birthday party for the wife yesterday.

we had no idea about the planned party.. the kids (wife daughter and husband) really surprised the wife and i. sunday morning a. truck pulled up and started unloading tents, tables and chairs.

the son-in-law fired up the grill,.

Oubliette

Yeah, I've had and been to several parties since I quit believing all of that Bible nonsense. No one ever lost their head at any of them.

What a stupid interpretation of the Bible.

Rules, rules and more rules.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Today's meeting & WT 7/2015 study "Work to enhance the spiritual paradise"

by Mrs. Eden in

so, much against my inclination, i went to the meeting this sunday morning.

just starting to fade, but i needed to do it so that it doesn't look like my hubby turned my head during last week's vacations.

since i'm not just disappearing cold turkey, i went.

Oubliette

Great insight, Mrs. Eden!

It's amazing, isn't it? Once our eyes are opened it is so obvious that this religion is a sham.

Thanks for sharing.