i had a secret conversation with a dyed in the wool jw recently.. they told me that they felt that the organisation now was a different religion to the 'good old days' when knorr was the boss.
the books were more interesting.
the zeal was there.
Exactly. This is not the religion I joined in the '80s. It was a cult then--in retrospect, I recognize that now--but at least it was interesting and there was some genuineness.
Now its all so vapid, insipid and flat out inane and has turned against almost all of the beliefs that were initially attractive.
The real apostates are the current Governing Body.
Let's review: It's a cult!
so i'm thinking...my daughter has a great grand mother that was born in 1900. she was 14 years old in the 1914 year.. well this grand lady died in 1990. my daughter was about 9 years old at that time.
so my daughter can live until 2065.. she will be about 84 in the year 2065. so this "new light" means that 2065 is the new 1914?.
can someone say im right?.
last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.
he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.
then out of the blue he tells me; .
the comet: doctrine doesn't matter
That's for sure.
This is NOT the religion I joined back in the '80s.
.
that was the question to me tonight.
because of their beliefs they have a moral compass, a net work of friends and a support group.
they have what they believe is a loving god.
Clarity: Oh geez thanks Oubliette ....it has been so long since I have garnered any positive comments ....I am actually giddy ().
You're most welcome!
I'm glad you're free of this cult!
due to circumstances right now i cannot leave permanently the watchtower, however i need honest advice of what to say when elders question me how come im not meeting the group out for door to door & going out in " field service"... what would be proper responses not to draw suspicions since i'm aware of ttatt.. .any serious advice please...
Playing the depression card generally works.
"I'm sorry brothers, I just so depressed right now. I simply am not emotionally ready to go to meetings, go out in FS, etc."
If they press and ask why, tell them it's personal.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
If they suggest a "shepherding call" politely, but firmly, decline. "Thanks for your concern, but I'm just not up for it."
Eventually they'll get busy on something else and give up.
there were so many things wrong with this weeks watchtower, its hard to pick one, but one that really bothered me was this watchtower business and their delivery.
i have never seen them quite have to explain something away like this in a study article like this before.
shows me they are battling people feeling confused.
It's totally the rapture.
The latest WT teaching is essentially what Fundamentalist Christians mean when they use the term: Rapture, (minor details aside). Although I doubt JWs will start using the term anytime soon.
i'm sick of.... ...having an elder i barely know invite himself over to my house, and bring another asshole elder with him, you know, to "see how i'm doing" f-ck them.
...having same elder with all insincerity approach me at the beeting and before inviting himself over, ask, "how are you doing?
" then when i say everything is great, go ahead and invite them selves over anyway.
Good, good!
Hang in there. Soon it will all be passed.
i'm sick of.... ...having an elder i barely know invite himself over to my house, and bring another asshole elder with him, you know, to "see how i'm doing" f-ck them.
...having same elder with all insincerity approach me at the beeting and before inviting himself over, ask, "how are you doing?
" then when i say everything is great, go ahead and invite them selves over anyway.
Wow, you must be having a particular bad day. I'm sorry to hear that.
What's the status of your fade? Why can't you just tell the elders to leave you alone?
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
I have heard anecdotal evidence that Sanderson started partaking when he was young. I know a guy that knows a guy that knows. ... my source says mark was about 19 when he started partaking
Well that settles it! ... lol
