Apparently "neutrality" doesn't mean what it used to mean.
Neither does "no part of the world."
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Chilean Flag: 4th Kingdom Hall photographed with it
by ILoveTTATT2 inin 2013 we had 1. in 2014 we had 2. in 2015 (so far) i have been sent pics of 1 more.therefore there are 4 different kingdom halls which have been photographed or videotaped with the chilean flag on them.. here is a link to my page where i have the pictures:.
https://www.facebook.com/extestigosdejehovamundialmente/posts/725406827592825.
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The Last Time I Set Foot in a Kingdom Hall
by Oubliette insaturday, september 19th, 2015: .
earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "daily text" which is based on a paragraph from the november 15th, 2013 article.
that magazine contains the now infamous maxim: .
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stuckinarut: We can all take control of our circumstances ... We can make positive new paths for ourselves!
Although control is relative (we can never have total control), you are absolutely right about our ability to make new paths for ourselves, controlling what we can and accepting what we cannot. But we must not passively sit by allowing others to determine our life choices. Thank you so much for your comments!
Bonsai, Thanks for your positive affirmations and remembering my kids are still "stuck in" this cult.
I appreciated you sharing your "decisive moment." Although different than mine, it obviously was just as powerful. I'm glad you've left this destructive cult and are living life on your own terms now!
FayeDunaway, that is a very typical experience: you try and say/share something real and all another person hears is more cult propaganda. Actually, that can be useful if we are ever in a situation where we need to speak to a still indoctrinated JW. We can often word things in a way that are true, but know that they will filter and perceive it according to their JW worldview.
never a jw, I really appreciate your comment about being an educator. I cannot give all the details here because it wouldn't be good for some of my former students, but I have helped more than a couple of high school kids formulate exit plans from this religion. And it was all because I taught them how to think critically and not be afraid to be their own person.
Now if I could only find a way to reach my own children that are still "stuck in" this fucking cult!
JW daughter, thank you also for acknowledging my hard work and personal progress. It means a lot to me!
Olivia Wilde, I had the same thoughts about that paragraph. Images of Jonestown came to my mind.
I didn't say it in the OP, but I went to the Kingdom Hall where my kids attend for that meeting. I wanted to be there when they heard this crap from the platform. I was disgusted at how the congregation gulped down this kool-aid laced message. If there were any dissenters other than myself, they kept their opinions to themselves. Those that commented on the paragraph said things that were truly frightening. It's really scary shit actually.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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Silly Bible things you notice when your awake.
by Crazyguy ini sure you guys can list others but here is a thought about the exodus story.
in chapter 1 the pharoah is concerned that the israelites are becoming to numerous.
and just as a side point we can assume pharaohs were not to dumb and even if they were the smart people of egypt studied in the temple 40 years and they studied all things not just religion.
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Jesus H. Christ!
Is there enough server space to list all of the silly things in the Bible?
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A problem with the book of Daniel
by wozza inleft the wts some years ago, but just before i left we were studying the daniel book that they produced in the book study .. i noticed something wrong in the bible account of daniel and brought this up at the end of the study when the conductor asked if everyone understood that nights study,.
i think i may have started a topic here some years ago about this event ,it was a time when i started to question the wts in my heart and mind.the scriptures are lengthy so i will just shorten things by describing the stories in daniel and how one point really got me thinking about things and perhaps made the brothers wierd out about me sand distance themselves ,here it is..........dan ch 1-4. daniels ( who came to be called belteshazzar)in babylon along with shadrach,meshach & abednego ,daniel,after praying with these 3, interprets and states what nebuchadnezzars dream is( we all know this ,the image with the head of gold body of iron and copper etc) and they are rewarded by being positions of authority.
daniel made ruler of the province and chief prefect over babylons wise men ,the 3 were made overseers of the administation of the province ,all very important jobs ,.
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The Last Time I Set Foot in a Kingdom Hall
by Oubliette insaturday, september 19th, 2015: .
earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "daily text" which is based on a paragraph from the november 15th, 2013 article.
that magazine contains the now infamous maxim: .
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NewYork44M, I agree. Although in retrospect there are usually a number of things big and small that lead up to our saying, "Enough is enough!" and leaving, there is usually, as you said, one defining moment where we are done.
DJS, thanks! Life is good.
Diogenesister, I am a high school science teacher. I am acutely aware that I have a profound opportunity to influence young people to learn to think critically and become strong, independent individuals.
BW, I'm having that drink now! Cheers, mate.
NVR2L8, It's really kind of sad, isn't it, to watch so many just passively swallow whatever shite they are fed from the WT leadership. I have recently come to conclude that the majority of JWs are cowards: they are afraid to think for themselves and to live the kind of lives that they pretend to live.
SecretSlaveClass, thanks for the kind words. I actually began my BA in education while still serving as an elder about a decade ago. I got a lot of flack from a few of my fellow elders and from my now ex-wife, but you know what? They are still living their lives based on the lies the WTBTS feeds them. I now am making a REAL LIFE for myself and my family.
Who is going to take care of those elders and my ex when they are old? None of them planned for a retirement. The WTBTS sure as hell isn't going to take care of them. I do feel a bit sorry for them, but only a bit. I tried to reason with all of them. None would listen. This is just one of many reasons why my ex-wife is my ex.Let's review: It's a cult!
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BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..
by defender of truth infor any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.
but where will this system of things be by that time?
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Fred Franz, "We know it's a critical year, but we're not saying."
Hint, innuendo and manipulation.
Everyone certainly knew what Franz was implying.
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The Last Time I Set Foot in a Kingdom Hall
by Oubliette insaturday, september 19th, 2015: .
earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "daily text" which is based on a paragraph from the november 15th, 2013 article.
that magazine contains the now infamous maxim: .
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Saturday, September 19th, 2015:
Earlier today snugglebunny posted a pic of today's "Daily Text" which is based on a paragraph from the November 15th, 2013 article. That magazine contains the now infamous maxim:
- All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
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It took a minute, but I just realized with some pleasure that when that WT article was studied on Sunday, January, 20th, 2014, that was the very last time I ever attended a meeting!
I have not set foot in a Kingdom Hall since all the congregations around the world were told: "All of us must be ready to OBEY any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound ... or not."
That was it for me. I was done.
That paragraph concluded with this little bit of "advice" from the Brooklyn Seven: "Now is the time for any who may be putting their trust in secular education, material things, or human institutions to adjust their thinking."
In the time since that was published I have completed a Master's degree in Education. As a result, I became a full-time permanent teacher in my school district. My income has more than doubled since those "words of wisdom" were published for the manipulation and control of gullible Witnesses of Jehovah.
I have adjusted my thinking. I left the religion and my life has never been better!
Let's review: It's a cult!-
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I just realized with some pleasure that when the November 15, 2013 WT article was studied in January 2014, that was the very last time I ever attended a meeting!
I have not set foot in a Kindgom Hall since the congregations around the world were told: "All of us must be ready to OBEY any instructions we may receive ..."
That was it for me. I was done.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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The comments conclude by admonishing us to "adjust our thinking."
Well I'm happy to report that I have adjusted my thinking!
- I no longer think the writers of the WT know what they are talking about,
- I no longer think the GB have a clue,
- I no longer think that JWs are "the One True Religion," in fact,
- I now think JWs are a cult,
- I no longer think that I have to belong to any religion at all to be happy, finally,
- I no longer think that God exists.
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And I am so much happier because of these adjustments in my thinking.
Praise be my new found thinking abilities!
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Let's review: It's a cult!
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