Oubliette

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  Any thoughts on the real reasons for droppng the 'school"

  by sparrowdown in

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  my thoughts are.

  1. they want to avoid being made to comply with any laws that come with anything classed as a "school" especially a school with children enrolled.. 2. the mid-week meeting has been dying in the ass for years and needs a revival.

  i predict happy -clappy-sing-a-longs to be included in the program.. anyone else have any thoughts ??

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  steve2: So, the dumbing down continues: Even less is required. Hardly a sign of a thriving organization.

  Agreed. Instead of raising expectations, they are lowering the bar.

  I ran the first 10 paragraphs of the Bible Teach book through a Gunning Fog Index calculator. It rated it at a 6th grade reading level. And yet the GB, in their "infinite wisdom," feel the need to create a version that is even more simple!

  Probably because the current edition is too difficult for Stephen Lett to understand.

  It has become a religion for the mentally impaired and the integrity compromised.
  
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  Please stop deriding the Governing Body.

  by Esse quam videri in

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  please stop it !!!.

  we love them.

  we all love them.

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  Esse quam videri is a Latin phrase meaning "To be, rather than to seem (to be)".

  Now the Governing Body may seem to be good, they are in fact not.

  They are arrogant liars, hypocrites and cowards that sponge off of the hard work of others. They claim to be a "Faithful and Discreet Slave," but in actual practice they behave as if they are the lords and masters over the faithful Witnesses.

  They pompously demand blind, unquestioning obedience. They issue edicts like this now infamous maxim from the November 15th, 2013 Watchtower:
  

  • All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. - p. 20
    

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  And yet, when called on to testify before legitimate authorities, they hypocritically say things like:

  • "I do not answer to Watchtower. ... Watchtower does not have, and never has had, any authority over me." - Gerritt Lösch, in a signed affidavit to the Superior Court of the State of California, County of San Diego, dated February 4th, 2014
    

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  They make the Pharisees look like amateurs.

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  FMF: A Wake Up Story

  by freemindfade in

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  sorry for the length of this, i hope anyone stopping by to read will take the time and read it.

  i haven't included any things i would consider "apostate" specifics about doctrines, or major scandals.

  it's just a general layout of the path i took to becoming an exjw.

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  FMF: This brother who serves in the same hall as the GB was asked to never come back to our hall again. When I say he was insane, I am not making hyperbole. He was nuts, he said crazy things.

  Great story! Thanks for sharing.

  Could you elucidate on your comment above? Some specifics would be entertaining.
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  help me to readjust my thinking about my hypocritical ex....

  by losingit in

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  i am really struggling with this particular situation in my life, and i really need your help to readjust my thinking.

  i am recently divorced from my ex-jw husband.

  we were both disfellowshipped at around the same time about 2-3years ago.

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  LosingIt: I don't know what to say.

  My ex-wife did many of the same things. When we were together, she wouldn't do anything that would bring us closer together: hiking, dancing, visiting family, going to a counselor, spending time with non-JW family.

  Then, as soon as I left her she immediately started doing ALL of these things. Go figure. They are way fucked up people.

  The only difference between my ex and yours is she is still in the cult.

  Did I mention how fucked up she is?

  You have to live your own life and live it well. Not for revenge, but for yourself.

  Congrats on your Master's degree. I just got mine this last summer! I'm making more money, but more importantly: I'm enjoying my life and my work now more than ever!

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  
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  Bad timing

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  i haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

  in view of the cutbacks being announced, this weekends watchtower study is staggeringly badly timed - it's about how kingdom halls should be viewed, financed and maintained.

  a footnote even mentions that the same principles apply to "assembly halls and other facilities that are used for pure worship".

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  Yeah, Holy Spirit missed this somehow!
  
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  E-Mail, Just recived. About Bethell adjustments.

  by DwainBowman in

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  i just read an email from a friend, and she shared some very interesting emails from her friends about information on changes now happening at the bethels around the world.

  here is the email: .

  ---------------------------------thanks sally, jesus is directing the org and all decisions and instructions to us may not seem practical from now on, neither will we understand the reasonings behind many of the changes that the organization makes.

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  Do you understand this?

  Of course not. No one could. It doesn't make sense.
  

  If more pioneers are being sent into the field, the result will be more new ones coming into the congregations. And yet, the building projects are being curtailed.

  More contradictions.
  

  So, should an announcement like this surprise us?

  Yes it should, it absolutely should.

  But yet they continue ...
  

  Not at all. As we get closer to the end, some decisions may be made that we perhaps don’t understand, that may seem to go against all logic. Whatever the reasons, obeying and accepting those decisions will result in blessings.

  Well that is just fucking ridiculous.

  It really is amazing how effective that now infamous quote from the November 15th, 2013 Watchtower has become:

  • All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

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  The R&F are regurgitating this nauseating propaganda right on cue.

  It's scary to sit back and watch this unfold, seeing how effective the mind-manipulation is. I fear for my children.
  

  Let's review: Its a cult!
  
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  Here's some food for thought from Irwin Zalkin, the attorney who has filed nearly 20 child abuse lawsuits against the Watchtower

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  http://www.zalkin.com/blog/yom-kippur-thoughts-pope-francis/.

  yom kippur thoughts for pope francis.

  by: irwin zalkin.

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  Irwin Zalkin: I was disappointed to see no acknowledgment or compassion for the victims of clergy abuse, ... I was disappointed, but not surprised.

  And you could easily substitute the Governing Body and other WT leaders for the Pope in Zalkins essay.
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  Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

  re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

  dear brothers:.

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  I don't want to be a damp squib but do we know this letter is actually real.

  How interesting ... we can't tell parody from the real thing, ... or the real thing from parody.

  What does this say about the quality of "the real thing"?
  
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  Calm Down Everybody, We Will Know Soon Enough

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  seriously, they will change the midweek meeting ever so slightly.

  it is just repackaging of the same old stuff.seriously, we don't know if construction is halted for days, weeks, months, forever, or what.. we don't know if new kingdom halls will still go up, old kingdom halls will be closed and sold.

  they have laid off bethelites before and they will lay them off some more.

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  OTWO: Speculation is fun, I know we are going to do it, but just be careful running with these scissors.

  Ah, a voice of reason cries out in the wilderness.
  

  FayeDunaway: It's always fun to speculate on the future of the religion that was BUILT on speculating on the future!

  Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!
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  How do we know the WTS monitors this site? Can anyone tell me for sure?

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  i keep hearing this in threads.....

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  SB: Just for interest sake, wouldn't it be like the US president filing a DMCA for a transcript of the state of the union address?

  No it would not. Speeches by federal employees are in the public domain.

  Fair use does not allow for anything under copyright to be reproduced in whole without the express permission of the copyright holder. Only excerpts may be used for legitimate purposes such as education, journalistic reporting, etc.

  Are speeches public domain?

  Historical Speeches