cantleave: Challenge everything, fact check everything, examine both sides and apply Occum's razor.
Generally a good strategy, but we must be careful with Occam's razor. It gave us a flat earth and a geocentric universe.
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Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?
by adjusted knowledge inmy wife is taking a literature course at a local college.
this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.
the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.
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Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?
by adjusted knowledge inmy wife is taking a literature course at a local college.
this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.
the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.
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Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?
by adjusted knowledge inmy wife is taking a literature course at a local college.
this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.
the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.
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Q: Would the US government ever do something illegal?
A: Iran-Contra. Now there's a conspiracy theory that turned out to be true.
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Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?
by adjusted knowledge inmy wife is taking a literature course at a local college.
this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.
the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.
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This is a very interesting observation:
Distracted: if you say you believe [9/11} happened just the way the government says it happened, you do believe in a conspiracy theory ... it's just that you believe the official version
Especially taken in light of Cofty's comment:
So clearly, there are delusional egos on both sides of many of these controversies.Cofty: If you ever get into a conversation with conspiracy nuts they very quickly become abusive and arrogant. Their ego is fed by the delusion that they know better than everybody else.
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Ex-Jehovah's Witness elder jailed for sex assaults on schoolgirl
by LevelThePlayingField inthis is becoming more common.
this is from the last part of the article: .
"this was about sexual gratification and you are a hypocrite because you became an elder and you investigated a sexual matter even with this in your sexual background.".
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What Winkle did was wrong, but it was nearly 40 years ago.
People can change.
Has anyone read any other reports that indicate the victim's age at the time? This article only say she was a "schoolgirl" and that "She was a child when [Winkle] did that. [He] were an adult." That's open to a wide range of ages.
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Revelation - it's grand climax is at hand
by Listener insome people point out the subliminal pictures in the wtbts publications but sometimes things are just so obvious, such as the title of the book above.. the person who came up with the title for this book must have had a good old laugh.. interestingly, this book first came out in 1988 and has not been included in the online library but nothing has replaced it.
the org is really going backwards when they ditch old light and cannot come up with anything new.
they are real wankers ;)..
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She: "Is that a Watchtower in your pants, or are you just glad to see me?"
Me: "It's Awake! and: yes I'm glad to see you!"
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Kenneth Flodin: ‘This Generation Will ... Not Pass Away’ (Matt. 24:34)
by wifibandit inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbpbb5k_mc
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Splane is evidently plagiarizing a chart I made a couple of years ago and posted here on JWN after the release of the Watchtower, January 15, 2014:
(I'm not sure why the chart no longer appears in the old thread. So I've reposted it above).
This was also discussed in a more recent thread about three months ago.
In the first thread I wrote:
"So, apparently, there are now three groups of "anointed" ones:
- Those anointed before 1914
- Those anointed after 1914, but before the death of the last of those in group #1.
- Those anointed after the death of the last person in group #1. (See point #2 above)
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It is interesting to note that Fred W. Franz is not mentioned in the WT article of January 15, 2014. Yet now, according to Splane, he is the key person in this concept. Born in 1893, Franz was baptized in 1913 or 1914, making him part of the first group. He is also presumably the last person of the first group to die. Franz died on December 22, 1992.
According to that WT, the first two groups comprise the "this generation" that Jesus mentioned at Matthew 24:34, albeit in an "overlapping" manner. The third group is explicitly NOT part of "this generation."
Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. - w2014, 1/15, p. 32, para. 16
Careful readers of the 1/15/2014 study article will note that it contained so scriptural references or evidence of any kind to support this new twist on the "Overlapping Generation" idea. It is all just unfounded assertion. Splane's current explanation is just as devoid of "evidence."
But hey, who needs evidence when you're the leaders of a cult."
Can I say with absolute certainty that Splane used my chart and my JWN post two years ago to come to their "current understanding" and explanation of the "overlapping generation" nonsense? No, I cannot. But it's ironically funny that I explained it more than two years exactly the way they do now.
What is really brilliantly ironic is that I am now--as I was then--100% convinced that it's all bullshit!
It's interesting that they even address the discrepancy between two different published dates for FWF's baptism.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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More Silly Stuff from jw.org videos
by OnTheWayOut inthis is a facebook link and i just can't bring myself to dig into jw .
org and find it.there's no trick here, but i think you have to be logged in to see it.
if anyone could figure out how to repost this, that would be great.
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Splane is evidently plagiarizing a chart I made a couple of years ago and posted here on JWN after the release of the Watchtower, January 15, 2014:
(I'm not sure why the chart no longer appears in the old thread. So I've reposted it above).
This was also discussed in a more recent thread about three months ago.
In the first thread I wrote:
"So, apparently, there are now three groups of "anointed" ones:
- Those anointed before 1914
- Those anointed after 1914, but before the death of the last of those in group #1.
- Those anointed after the death of the last person in group #1. (See point #2 above)
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It is interesting to note that Fred W. Franz is not mentioned in the WT article of January 15, 2014. Yet now, according to Splane, he is the key person in this concept. Born in 1893, Franz was baptized in 1913 or 1914, making him part of the first group. He is also presumably the last person of the first group to die. Franz died on December 22, 1992.
According to that WT, the first two groups comprise the "this generation" that Jesus mentioned at Matthew 24:34, albeit in an "overlapping" manner. The third group is explicitly NOT part of "this generation."
Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. - w2014, 1/15, p. 32, para. 16
Careful readers of the 1/15/2014 study article will note that it contained so scriptural references or evidence of any kind to support this new twist on the "Overlapping Generation" idea. It is all just unfounded assertion. Splane's current explanation is just as devoid of "evidence."
But hey, who needs evidence when you're the leaders of a cult."
Can I say with absolute certainty that Splane used my chart and my JWN post two years ago to come to their "current understanding" and explanation of the "overlapping generation" nonsense? No, I cannot. But it's ironically funny that I explained it more than two years exactly the way they do now.
What is really brilliantly ironic is that I am now--as I was then--100% convinced that it's all bullshit!
It's interesting that they even address the discrepancy between two different published dates for FWF's baptism.
Let's review: It's a cult!
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More Silly Stuff from jw.org videos
by OnTheWayOut inthis is a facebook link and i just can't bring myself to dig into jw .
org and find it.there's no trick here, but i think you have to be logged in to see it.
if anyone could figure out how to repost this, that would be great.
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Translation: "We were wrong about the meaning of this ordinary word 'generation' for about 100 years, but now we've got it right with the 'overlapping generation' explanation. ... You can trust us!"
Ugh, let's review: It's a cult!
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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide
by SnakesInTheTower inmy middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
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Rich, I'm sorry for your loss ... that's devastating.