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  Encounter with J.W's at wittnessing kart.

  by karter in

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  me-you allow pedophiles to go d2d and into peoples houses even when they have children.. j.w-no we don't.. me-the one that interfered with a relative of mine does and another i know who raped his sister does in fact he's an elder.. j.w-we cant stop them going d2d.. me- so now your saying they do go d2d you can't stop them,no you don't want to!.

  j.w-it happens in all religions.. me- so that justifies sending pedo's into strangers houses.how would you like it if a pedo came to your place and you didn't know.. j.w- it happened to my mother and if he came to my place it knock him out.. me - but you have no problem with anyone from your church going to peoples houses even if they are a pedo.. we argued around in circles with him saying the elders may not know and me saying well i told them and so did the victim and he admitted to it ,then i told him about the r.c in australia and he said that could be anyone claiming to be a j.w could be on the stand ( by this time he was getting desperate)the i said like jeffery jackson?.

  i told them to look it up on you tube.. i gave then the names and congro's the 2 pedo's are in and said i'd come back next week and see if they had checked it out.the lady's body language said she knew the elder that raped his sister as they are a well know family they were in the year book a few years ago.. stand by for next week.. karter.

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  Translation: We don't do that, but if we did it's because we can't stop them and it happens in all religions anyways.

  Denial, impotence and excuses.

  JWs are just like everyone else after all.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

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  now what is your stance?

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  TGND: What I am arguing for is the negligence in identifying the hypocrisy of a community that has shared illegal copies of CoC and WT copyrighted material for decades

  What is this community of which you speak?

  Can you identify it in specific terms? Who are its members? Where do they live?
  
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

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  now what is your stance?

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  Mephis: Lion Laboratories v Evans

  If you're going to cite a legal precedent you must provide a link and an explication, preferably one by a recognized jurist and perhaps a summary of your own.
  
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  North America:

  
  
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  Cofty: Am I not right in saying that Canada is part of North America which is made up of Canada and the USA?

  Well, you obviously left out Greenland and Mexico. And according to many geologists/geographers, you should also include Central America and the Caribbean.
  

  And so, to include most of the 40 - 50 countries of the Americas:

  • Antigua Barbuda
  • Bahamas
  • Barbados
  • Bermuda
  • Cuba
  • Dominica
  • Dominican Republic
  • Grenada
  • Guadelupe
  • Haiti
  • Jamaica
  • Martinique
  • Netherland Antilles
  • Puerto Rico
  • St. Kitts & Nevis
  • Trinidad and Tobago
  • U.S. Virgin Islands
  • Belize
  • Costa Rica
  • El Salvador
  • Guatemala
  • Mexico
  • Honduras
  • Nicaragua
  • Panama
  • Argentina
  • Bolivia
  • Brazil
  • Chile
  • Colombia
  • Ecuador
  • French Guyana
  • Guyana
  • Paraguay
  • Peru
  • Suriname
  • Uruguay
  • Venezuela
  • there are more ... the list is long (did someone say the Falkland Islands?)

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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

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  now what is your stance?

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  TGND: justifications for "civil disobedience" are really only in the eye of the beholder aren't they?

  By definition, yes. But many others may agree and that's historically one way that unjust laws have been changed.

  TGND: ... violation of copyright is illegal ...
  

  Now you're getting it.
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

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  now what is your stance?

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  Simon: "civil disobedience" isn't a let-off or an excuse for any crime. It's really the notion that people are willing to break the law and accept the consequences of their action in order to highlight a cause (and possibly change the law).

  Exactly!

  Well said, Simon, well said.
  
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  My dilemma

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  i have a bit of a dilemma that i would welcome advice on from the forum.. a brother in my congregation is giving evidence of having woken up - his comments and talks are usually slanted towards topics discussed here.

  he is a former elder and is part of a group of other former elders and ministerial servants who i regularly overhear using terms i would expect to hear from ones knowing ttat.

  he is a quite an effective teacher and will probably influence some.. however, in the past he has caused lots of problems for myself and others who i like (including another poster to this site who i have identified) and continues to be someone who i dislike intensely on a personal level.. his comments have been noticed by the body of elders and he is being watched.

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  SF: My instinct was to keep my distance for now.

  Learn to trust your instincts.
  
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  The Noble Fir

  by Oubliette in

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  the noble fir.

  the fir tree stands silently in the corner of our living room: proud, erect, strong.

  even unadorned, it is beautiful.

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  Thank you GrreatTeacher, that is beautifully said, especially in light of all that you're going through right now.

  How are your mom and dad doing?
  
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  Watchtower purchases CoC copyright for undisclosed amount!

  by the girl next door in

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  now what is your stance?

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  TGND: Both are equally wrong legally despite anyone's spin on morals or ethics.

  I, of course, completely disagree.

  Have you never heard of civil disobedience?

  As I posted on another thread in reference to the question about downloading copies of Shepherd the Flock of God or other WTBTS publications which are not intended for general public distribution:
  

  Doing so is a copyright violation.

  When I do that, I KNOW I am breaking a law. I am doing it deliberately and with full and complete comprehension of the possible consequences. For me it is an act of civil disobedience, albeit a relatively small one.

  Considering all of the things that my involvement with this religion has done to bring irreparable damage to my life, my family relationships and those of countless other, I have absolutely no compunction at all in breaking this law in respect to them, but only to them.

  Normally I like your posts, TGND, and generally agree with them, but you really missed the boat on this one.
  

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  TGND: Obliette, this post doesn't muddy the issue.

  BTW, ironically enough, you left the "u" out of my name. It's Oubliette. Spelling counts.