watchtower never learns.. i applaud dr. singh for speaking out and his open letter to watchtower.
http://jwalumni.org/2015/01/17/rama-singh-awake/.
ARS: do ANY of you ever look up ANYTHING on your own?
Only all the time, and not in the WT. That's the nice thing about being out of the cult. I can Fact Check using independently verifiable sources.
This is something no JW can do, at least not with serious consequences.
"there have been repeated scientific challenges to the.
theory of evolution in the past, and the nonbelievers of evo-.
lution cite them as support for their case.
Where to begin ...
OK, I'll start here:
First of all, what's with the "R"? Is this like Toys-R-Us?
Atheists-R-Stupid. What, are you opening a store? Silly.
Next, it should either be, "atheists ARE stupid" or "an atheist IS stupid." We're talking basic SUBJECT-VERB agreement here. Grammar 101.
That being said, showing up on a forum of ex- and wish-they-were-ex-Jehovah's Witnesses and insulting atheists is not good form. In and of itself, I would posit that your choice of a JWN username is prima facie evidence of a cognitive deficit on your part. At the very least it shows poor social skills.
Finally, apparently you didn't take a minute and take the temperature of the room before you entered.
There are many here among us that are NOT atheists.
Get the clue.
i have have come to realize most "rank and file" jw's are mentally unstable-to-ill and here is why.... http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mental-issues.php.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religious_delusion.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religion_and_schizophrenia.
Mental illnesses are serious conditions that can only be diagnosed by a trained medical professional experienced in dealing with the specific disorders under question.
So unless your a licensed psychologist, psychiatrist or a member of the Governing Body, refrain from doling out medical diagnoses without a first-hand evaluation.
BTW, we should all be in awe of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses because they are able to diagnose "mental disease" without even personally examining the individuals that have it. Must be God's Holy Spirit!
fine.
holy spirit appointed overseers to shepherd?
6:1, 2; jude 22) are these not good reasons for being obedient to those who are taking the lead?read hebrews 13:17.. .
just learned today direct from my beloved daughter that she has been abused between 5 and 12 years old by 2 brothers (her own cousins) and 1 family "friend".
she has attempted suicide a few days ago.
luckily she is living and she is not physically injured.
Nathan Natas, why are you being such an unempathetic asshole?
TFA, I'm sorry you're dealing with this, but I'm glad your daughter is improved. Try to ignore the insensitive comments of NN. What a jerk.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: survey on use of printed publications .
dear brothers: .
the branch office is working on arrangements for the 2015 regional conventions.
in a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.
naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.
but i'm interested in hearing yours.
EdenOne, Stop making sense, Oubliette!
Sorry, can't do that!
im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.
it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.
the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.
in a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.
naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.
but i'm interested in hearing yours.
What organization was that during:
The middle ages? Surely it wasn't the Catholic church!
After Noah and before Abraham? A random guy here and there is not an "organization."
This is an absurd notion that just doesn't stand up to even a few moments of intelligent scrutiny.
has anyone had success in using this article to convince their family member or spouse that critical research of what the society presents is important to build faith?.
this article has this passage that jumped out at me:.
of course, not all doubt is bad.
Blondie,
I'm sure most of us get that point, but that is exactly why it is so ironic. The arrogance that JWs have to hypocritically condemn all other religions when they are scrupulously unwilling to examine their own beliefs or to apply their own advice to themselves is simply stunning!
