i just read about this on the ex-jw subreddit.
link to the video (10m06s).. skip to 7:35 where he says: "another way we can contribute to the oneness - rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.
as an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and 'dishonesties' that jehovah's organization is permissive toward pedophiles.
WBF: It's great that they are talking about it ... Now that a GB member brings the subject up, it has been introduced into the indoctrinated mind that probably knew nothing about the problem in the first place.
Exactly!
Now we can ask other JWs, "Did you see the latest video on jw.org? Why do you think the GB is talking so much about pedophiles? Do we have a problem I don't know about?
"Something's not right here ..."
so do you feel bad throwing away your old literature?.
what about your old song book or bible from your early days in the org?.
if so, is it because of sentimentality, monetary cost or because it might be 'sacred' ?.
Garbage should be disposed of in a safe and sanitary means; trash as well, recycled if possible. Either way, ecological and environmentally sound means of disposal should be utilized if at all possible.
if you choose to enter into a discussion on this site and you don't have the time, or patience, or are just too damn lazy to defend your position on any given topic that is perfectly fine.
i'm not going to bash you over the head about it.
however, please don't tell me that i'm "wasting my time" or that the person i'm trying to convince, "will never learn.
so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.
to which i exploded back with an email.
may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.
Here's an interesting article about FOG:
so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.
to which i exploded back with an email.
may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.
cappytan: I really think that apostate's families (and friends) actually would prefer us to fake it.
Yes they would. Why? Because that's what they're all doing!
i always took issue with the idea of no one knowing why a person got df.. i know im not alone.. i complained to my mother about this when i was younger, explaining that how do we know what it is that gets a person df if no one knows what they did?
my moms answer was , .
'if people knew a persons personal faults and what they did , others would not be so forgiving when they were reinstated, because we'd always view them with that view, so in other words, if when so n so, committed fornication, and the whole cong would know it, if they announced from the platform then his/her reputation would be permanently stained' .
You do know don't you that they (the WTBTS and local bodies of elders) used to announce the reason that a person was disfellowshipped.
They quit due to defamation lawsuits. However, it actually works out better this way for the religion: Blind obedience without questions!
Let's review: It's a cult!
ok guys, this is long, so i am sorry, but i think it is important to publish.
this is a glimpse into a 4 page letter (love that song) from my uber elder uncle.
as some of you may know i got tired of being in an email chain and finally lost it and lashed out.
Wow, guilt, emotional manipulation and accusations of being a Satanist and Luciferian!
What the heck's up with the "Luciferian" bit anyway? Doesn't your uncle know JWs don't believe Lucifer was Satan?
Also, for you to be a "Satanist," there would have to be a Satan. There isn't.
Let's review: It's a cult!
oh....ok....hahaha...did anyone else pick up on this classic stuff up in the wt for the weekend of 21/22 feb?.
after speaking about the destruction of sodom and gomorrah, paragraph 6 says:.
"only lot and his daughters, who stuck close to him, survived".
WBF: One must wonder how, if he was that drunk, could even perform.
Yeah, I always wondered that too: If he was so drunk he didn't know he was having sex with his own daughters, how could he get an erection? And not once, but then again the next night?
I actually asked a couple of elders this question. They looked very dumbfounded and of course had no answer, just mumbled something about, "If it's in the Bible, it must be true ...."
for those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
for those of you familiar with ayn rand and her ideas on morality, rationality and reason, what is your opinion of those ideas?.
i'm talking about her actual ideas, not the ideals that libertarianism has adopted and, in some cases, perverted.
do you think she's a charlatan?
She started what is, interesting, a non-religious cult.
Of course a group need not be religious to be a cult.
But I was thinking how ironic it is in this case. The very idea of there being a leader with followers is antithetical to Rand's philosophy of individualism.
I guess it just proves that some people can't help their narcissistic bent and others can't help but adore them.
