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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  GFG: the current Elders secret manual makes the legal claim, that a person who meets with a committee is ''...thus acknowledging the authority of the congregation.''

  The problem with that is this: only the elders know this. The R&F Witnesses do not.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses video slammed for threatening kids with death for not paying attention in church

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here is the link to a recent news article.

  maybe it was commented before, but today was the first i had seen it.. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

  i guess caleb is getting around.

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  Yeah!

  It's a friggin' cult and the world it beginning to notice how fucked up the WTBTS leaders are.

  This is fantastic.
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  Also, you have a chance to set an example for your son. You realized that something you used to believe is wrong. Now you're taking a stand.

  He is watching you. Fuck what some "brother" in the KH thinks. This guy doesn't respect you. You have no reason to treat him with anything but measured disdain.
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  MNIONC: Let me ask you something: Have you ever been in this situation?

  Not exactly, but similar enough.

  I handled it poorly and lost my sons. Don't make the same mistakes I did. Absolutely reaffirm appropriate boundaries. It's that important.

  
  You might enjoy this thread: Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  MNIONC: My wife will not permit me to talk to him unless she is present.

  Dude, be the man.

  You're awake but you're letting your still asleep wife boss you around.

  You gotta' grow a pair and soon.

  
  
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  I have a serious problem

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.

  i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.

  i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.

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  Oubliette

  You need to tell this individual in no uncertain terms that he is NOT to have any further communication with your son. None. Do this immediately.

  Inform your wife of your decision as head of the house.

  If any of them even hesitate for an instant to respect your clearly stated direction on this matter, remind them that you are the God appointed head of the house and if any of them disobey you, disrespect you and do anything to circumvent your stated directions the consequences will be immediate and severe.

  Say this calmly and firmly. Do not accept any response other than, "Yes, I understand."
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  Going clear: Scientology

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a must see if you haven't seen it.

  some scary stuff.

  they pay their workers.

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  Just watched it. Very powerful stuff.

  I do wish they would not have used Jason Beghe or at least gotten him to speak without dropping the "F-Bomb" every time he opened his fucking mouth. It didn't help the cause.

  Although Scientologists are more kooky than JWs, it's really only a matter of degree.

  I'm sure JWs would laugh that members of Scientology's SeaOrg sign a billion year contract, but the truth is: JWs agree to a verbal one that is supposed to last forever!

  Last time I checked, forever is longer than a billion year. A lot longer. So who's more crazy?

  They're all crazy.
  

  The verbal and psychological abuse, the shunning and subsequent destruction of families in both groups are all very similar.

  There were a couple of quotes that really resonated with me:

  • Scientologists have a "crushing certainty [of belief] that eliminates doubt"
  • Everything that is good [in your life] is because of Scientology. Everything that is bad is your fault

  Substitute Jehovah's Witness for Scientology and both of those statements completely apply to JWs!

  Let's review: They're both cults!

  
  
  
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  So, Who Controls Your Mind Now?

  by Night Owl in

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  2. friends

  well?.

  nightowl.

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  N.O.: Either way, it's been enlightening to read the responses to the question.

  Good for you.

  Ironic though since YOU NEVER ANSWERED ANY OF THE QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU!
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  March Broadcast- Jehovah is speeding up the work

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  2. friends

  i watched some of the segments on the jw broadcast.

  in the video they showed how they managed their inventory orders for the congregations.

  at the conclusion it was stated by the narrator how god is speeding up the work.. the problem is the system they implemented has been used for over two decades in logistics.

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  If Jehovah's been "speeding up the work" for many decades, then why is the organization still way behind the rest of the industrialized world?

  Apparently Satan's system is a hot rod compared to Jah's pedestrian chariot.

  It's just stupid. The people running this organization are only good at one thing, ripping off gullible people that mistakenly think they're serving god.

  Let's review: It's a cult!

  
  
  
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  Frustrating conversation with relative

  by lukejmedic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back storymy cousin, who i was pretty close to growing up, was dfd several years ago while i was still drinking the kool-aid.

  i contacted her shortly after i woke up and left the borg.

  we have been having great non-religious conversations on and off for a while.

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  it feels like you turned your back on him and the rest of the family

  This is the kind of cowardly, mind-fucking bullshit that proves this religion is cult: blame the victim for their abuse.

  THEY shun then rationalize/justify by pretending the person THEY won't talk to "turned their back on them."

  This kind of personal dishonestly is appalling