Oubliette

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  Who REALLY believed in the idea of living forever on earth??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  seriously.....even when you were 100% in "the truth", did you really believe in living forever?

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  I did, or at least I wanted to believe!

  I still like the idea, just not in any universe with Jehovah in it.
  
  
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  You are simulation and physics can prove it

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chfoo9nbeow.

  a little about george smoot.

  http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/george_smoot.

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  That was interesting, but he didn't really get into the real arguments to prove his thesis. It seemed due to the fact that he ran out of time at the end.

  Maybe we're just not supposed to know we're in a simulation!
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  Bye bye Gromit . .

  by nicolaou in

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  loyal pooch protected my identity for more than a decade, time for a rest old pal.. yep, that's the real me in my new avatar all stubbly and snoozing in the afternoon sun.

  call me nic' or call me mike, it's all good.

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  Nice to see the real you!
  
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  Graduating college May 14. Update on Getting my GED and going to college thread from 5 years ago.

  by noni1974 in

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/187163/getting-my-ged-can-go-college.

  i started this topic 5 years ago letting everyone know i had decide to get my ged and go to college in hopes of getting an education so that i could have a career instead of just a job.

  i wanted fulfillment and a future, not just another job that has no really future in it.

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  Noni, congrats on your accomplishment!
  
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  Apostasy Trial on YouTube - Undercover spycam part 1

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. beliefs

  for only the second time in internet history, a video recording of a secret jehovah's witness apostasy trial has been published online on the jwstruggle youtube channel.

  follow isaac's story here:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se9rh6qux0o&feature=youtu.be.

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  RayPublisher: How many JW apostasy trials (with recorded video) have been posted online? How many have you posted? Where are the others bc I would love to see them!

  Ok, I admit it. I was wrong.

  I was thinking of other videos of JCs without considering that they weren't technically about "apostasy."

  And some of the other JC recordings which I had in mind which were about "apostasy" were only audio.

  Whether I posted them or not is irrelevant.

  Thanks for sharing!
  

  Oubliette
  
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  i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

  by user100 in

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  2. beliefs

  so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

  after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

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  Flamegrilled, thanks for responding.

  You misunderstood a lot of what I said and inferred things I never implied.

  For example, I never said, "not to worry," as if life is all EGBOK (everything's gonna be OK) once you realize that the elders only have the authority you give them.

  I'm well aware of how much damage this cult can do. My own children shun me because of the messed up rules and practices of this cult. My oldest has barely spoken to me in half a dozen years. This religion ruins families as a result of it authoritarian, high-control practices.

  Let me repeat the most important part of that: THIS RELIGION RUINS FAMILIES!
  

  The elders instructed my children to shun me and they listened and obeyed the elders. I told the elders that they did not have the right to tell my children to do this.
  

  After that, I personally went through the humiliating process of being reinstated even though I had woken up to TTATT and was well aware of all of the hypocrisy and lies of the WT leadership. I did this in an attempt to reconcile with my children. So I am well aware of what can happen.

  Nevertheless, through it all I learned a lot of valuable lessons, the most important one being true to oneself and realizing that the elders only have as much authority over us as we grant them. We can't control other people. It's and illusion to think so. Perhaps we can influence them. Even that is hard to do.

  Our actions have consequences. Our in-actions do too. Being true to oneself is really the most important thing.

  Ultimately, the most important relationship we have in this life is the one we have with our self.

  Oubliette
  
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  Online version of "Reasoning from the Scriptures" has deleted preaching reference to Muslims

  by jwleaks in

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  2. bible

  the online version of "reasoning from the scriptures" has deleted the entry under "conversation stoppers" for when someone says "i'm a muslim".. online reasoning book.

  for the record, this is what has been removed:.

  *** rs pp.

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  Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
  
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  Regional Convention 2015 - Program

  by Designer Stubble in

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  friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

  5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

  120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

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  FMF: Pretty jesus heavy, I don't see the name of the desert god anywhere.

  FRIDAY AFTERNOON - 2:05 SYMPOSIUM: Imitate Jehovah by Imitating Jesus
  
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  Regional Convention 2015 - Program

  by Designer Stubble in

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  friday morning9:20 music9:30 song no.

  5 and prayer9:40 chairmans address: imitate jesuswhy and how?10:20 symposium: lessons from jesus word pictures observe the birds and the lilies have salt in yourselves build your house on the rock11:10 song no.

  120 and announcements11:20 follow jesus patternkeep on asking, seeking, and knocking!11:45 keynote address: concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom12:15 song no.

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  SATURDAY MORNING - 10:20 SYMPOSIUM: Imitate Jesus, Not the Pharisees
  

  
  Someone should make sure the GB members listen attentively to that talk.
  
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  i work with a JW and he doesnt know im an inactive

  by user100 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i started working at this place 4 years ago.. and i am usually myself a still-in inactive atheist jw at work.

  after several months i came to realize the guy i work with is a devout jw... im always afraid of running into him in the conventions.. he is in a different circuit but im afraid he might show up in one of the district conventions.. i am dreading that day...

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  Flamegrilled: I'm surprised they don't seem to understand the stress that this situation can cause.

  I don't know if you're referring to my comments, but I can assure you that I DO KNOW the stress that these situations cause. In fact, I know it all too well.

  Things changed for me when I realized a couple of things:

  • Most of the things I worried might happen, never did,
  • Even when some of them did happen, it rarely was as bad as I expected, and most importantly,
  • The elders only have as much power and authority over any of us as we give them.