Great point Mr. Logic!
Oubliette
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rejection of your own founder?
by Mr.logic inwhat kind of confidence can anyone have in an organization that rejected its founder and first two presidents for the first 63 years of its existence?
that's 53% of the time they existed!
any comments.
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Quick Question: Did Sanderson just get married?
by breakfast of champions ini'm fairly close to a source who would know.
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and haven't heard anything indicating that.. but family said there was a pic of him on ig w/ his wife travelling to hawaii or something.. anyone know?.
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it would be "close your eyes and count the days until the branch dedication in Tahiti"
Ewww, You guys are creepy!
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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday
by My Name is of No Consequence inso i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.
i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.
i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..
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Oubliette
John Aquila, here is some more relevant WT obfuscation:
Before answering that question, we need to clear up something. Many scientists have noted that over time, the descendants of living things may change slightly. For example, humans can selectively breed dogs so that eventually the descendants have shorter legs or longer hair than their forebears.* Some scientists attach to such slight changes the term “microevolution.”
However, evolutionists teach that small changes accumulated slowly over billions of years and produced the big changes needed to make fish into amphibians and apelike creatures into men. These proposed big changes are defined as “macroevolution.” - Was Life Created?, pp. 18-19
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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday
by My Name is of No Consequence inso i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.
i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.
i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..
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JA: what nelim said!
Here's a quote along those lines:
"The Bible does not specify how much variation can occur within a kind, as might result when animals within a kind interbreed and adapt to their environment. While some view such adaptations as a form of evolution, no new kind of life is produced." - Awake! January 2014, pp. 12-13
But the same article also says this a few pages later:
"To undermine belief in the creation account in Genesis is to undermine the very foundations of the Christian faith. Evolutionary theory and the teachings of Christ are incompatible."
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So I overheard a discussion that my son and wife were having about creation yesterday
by My Name is of No Consequence inso i am getting ready for bed yesterday night and i overhear my teenage son and wife talking about how the evidence of creation far outweighs the evidence of evolution.
i heard my son say that evolution has so many holes and how could something happen from nothing.
i wanted to open the door and ask them both how the creator happened from nothing just to see what they would say..
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Oubliette
John Aquila: Do you recall the publication or magazine where they acknowledge evolution? Thanks!
No, off the top of my head I do not.
But as I mentioned above, it wouldn't be an explicit "we believe in evolution" statement.
I used to give several public talks on this subject and read everything by the WTBTS that I could get my hands on. It was clear that they understood that most people were confused about the differences between evolution and biogenesis (origins of life).
Many of the society's publications clearly took advantage of this to create false dichotomies.
For example, consider the title of the book, Life- How did it get here? By evolution or by creation?
The very title sets up a false controversy. The real question should be: How did life get here, by direct creation by God or by purely natural means that do not require the existence of any kind of supreme/superior being?
That doesn't exactly roll off of the tongue, but it more precisely frames the real issue: Is there a God or not?
As I recall, the Reasoning book had a section on evolution that had a bit of verbal jiu-jistu by trying to confuse the householder with a question something like: "I find that different people mean different things by the word 'evolution.' What do you mean by it?"
Simply put, evolution means: change over time. That is completely non-controversial and totally indisputable. We all know that the real debate is whether or not there is a God and all that that implies.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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By “evolution,” we mean “macroevolution”—apes turning into humans, for example.
by FadingTruth inaugust 2015 awake .
quote in title taken from article footnote.. anyone have information on who gene hwang and yan-der hsuuw in the article are?.
why do they repeatedly state that apes turned to humans when that's not what evolutionists teach at all?.
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Newspaper article: 'Rise of ISIS and earthquakes are WARNINGS before ARMAGEDDON destroys Earth'
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/581439/rise-isis-earthquakes-warnings-before-armageddon-apocalypse-end-destroys-volcanoes-earth.
the "end" of mankind, which has been long predicted by jehovah's witnesses, could happen as soon as this year - according to latest announcement from the christian religion.. in the latest edition of jehovah's witnesses monthly publication watchtower, an article translated into 700 languages - urges people to join the religion or face certain death when god sends his forces from the heavens to "remove all world leaders," "exterminate his enemies" and "rid the world of satan".. critics have lambasted the warning of a coming armageddon as yet another "failed prediction" by the religion, which has previously delivered similar alerts such as a foretold apocalypse in 1975.. indeed, jehovah's witnesses have been warning people of the need to recognise jehovah or face certain death when the "end" comes for more than 100 years.. the christian-based religion was founded in the 1870s by charles taze russell in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, us, as an offshoot from the bible studies movement.. today, there are 8.2million jehovah's witness evangelists, while 19.9 million celebrated their annual memorial festival marking christ's death - worldwide in 2014.. followers do not believe in military service and will not accept blood transfusions.. in a new eight-page article, watchtower said jehovah's witness leaders are now "convinced" humans are in their "final days" before the armageddon.. they cite an increase in global armed conflict, such as the rise of the islamic state terror group, as well as natural disasters such as volcanoes and earthquakes.. the lengthy article, written by an unnamed author, said: "will god let humans continue to dominate one another and threaten the future of mankind?
no, as we have seen, he will step in and bring an end to centuries of misery and oppression.
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Loved the quotes from Paul Grundy of jwfacts!