Oubliette

Joined 12 years ago

• started 96 topics
• posted 7,450 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Oubliette

• 
  12

  The recent Royal Commission hearings have stirred up my emotions ....

  by troubled mind in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  10 years ago

  i hope the royal commission will be able to force the jw organization to take a serious look at itself ,and will cause some much needed changes.. i have been following the trial faithfully ,and unfortunately it has dredged up some deep pains from years ago .

  you think some of that old baggage is neatly packed away never meant to see the light of day again .....but then boom there it is again .. hearing what bcg had to go through, and how she felt trying to get help from the elders was heart-wrenching.

  i remember the terrible way young women were treated in the 1970's .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  It's no wonder you have a troubled mind the way you've been treated.

  Window washers and janitors have no business pretending to be counselors. The damage they cause is untold. Stories like yours give us a tiny glimpse in to the needless trauma JW elders have inflicted on so many people. Multiply your experience by millions and we can just begin to get a sense of it. I have come to believe that this should be criminalized. Sadly it is not. It's certainly a form of abuse.

  The real culprits are the leaders of this cult. Sadly, millions of "elders" believe they are somehow qualified to be "counselors" because they spent a few hours being "instructed" by bigots like Sam Herd and Anthony Morris or an imbecile like Stephen Lett.

  TM, I'm sorry you've had to go through this. I wish you peace and future where your mind is no longer troubled.
  

  Link +6 / -0
• 
  67

  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  10 years ago

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  8 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  Well obviously they'll notice, so you're not being clear in your thinking in this regard.

  As counter-intuitive as it may seem, the absolute best strategy is to simply inform the elders you will no longer be able to carry out your responsibilities and other assignments as a ministerial servant effective immediately. (If you want to be nice, you might give them a couple of weeks, but that's just like ripping the band-aid off slowly).

  When they ask why, respond politely, "I have personal reasons. I trust you'll respect my privacy in this regard. Thanks!"

  If, or more likely when, they press you on your reasons, say, "Look, I already explained that to you. I'm kind of frustrated you're not respecting me and the explanation I've given you." It's ok to show a little irritation at this point.

  If they try and play games and fish with a question like, "Have you committed a sin, Brother?" respond with a terse, "Now you're really being offensive," and walk away shaking your head. Refuse to engage.
  

  That's it. You're done.

  No other strategy works as well.
  

  Link +3 / -0
• 
  26

  Depressing chat to my still-in brother about the RC

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  10 years ago

  here is a quick breakdown of our conversation (by text message).

  me: "have you read about the royal commission?

  the org has been covering up child abuse.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  Him: "The Royal Commission is how Jehovah is fixing it"

  Well if that's true, then it is evidence that the organization has gone apostate just like the ancient Israelites. Think: The destruction of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar (and don't get started on dates).
  

  This also means that only a fool would remain part of this organization!

  Let's review: It's a cult!
  

  Link +4 / -0
• 
  85

  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  10 years ago

  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  
  

  Link +9 / -0
• 
  85

  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  10 years ago

  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  
  

  
  

  Link +9 / -0
• 
  85

  "And what happened next was simply unbelievable!"

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  10 years ago

  i always sit in the same spot, just outside starbucks in a vestibule area with a table in the air-conditioned space.

  i say "always," but not today.. somebody with two laptops and a table filled with business ledgers was in "my" favorite spot!.

  so, i took a tiny wooden table inside the coffee shop on a long padded bench next to 3 other identical tables.. as the clickbait banner ads like to say: "and what happened next was simply unbelievable!".

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  Terry, I really enjoyed reading this experience. While I appreciate your twinges of guilt towards the end, remember that these guys are big boys and they actively to out telling other people that their religious beliefs are wrong and only JWs have "the Truth."

  Speaking of "the Truth," I'm sure you remember various expressions about "the truth only hurts ..."

  They just got a taste of their own medicine.

  
  

  Link +5 / -0
• 
  53

  What is their official explanation for not allowing beards?

  by keyser soze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  10 years ago

  i ask because my gf, who knows all about my jw upbringing, convinced me to grow a goatee, just to see how it looks.

  we both decided it looked good so i decided to keep it.

  i tried to explain to her that as a jw, i wasn't allowed to grow one, but then drew a blank when she asked me why.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  TGNS: thanks for bumpin' the 00DAD thread!
  

  Link
• 
  11

  Tired of walking - then get onto your new midget ride-on board

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  10 years ago

  lifestyle: pocket-sized personal transporters could soon be seen on the streets of tokyo.

  by at editor on august 7, 2015 in japan, lifestyle.

  (from reuters).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  Great, another device to prevent/allow laziness.

  Why Obesity Is a Health Problem

  Link
• 
  32

  Branch Manual 2015

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  10 years ago

  apparently the backroom arguments have been heard and decided.

  the royal commission finally uploaded a redacted version of the 2015 branch manual.

  watchtower lawyers were looking to have as much redacted from this manual as possible.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  Thanks!
  

  Link +2 / -0
• 
  41

  How are Pro-JW sites handling the RC situation ???

  by RubaDub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  10 years ago

  sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 

  10 years ago
• 

  Oubliette 10 years ago

  millie210: JWLeaks, for some reason, that link isnt working.

  I believe JWLeaks is being ironic. When I clicked on his/her link I got a message on jw.org that reads:

  "Sorry, the page you are looking for cannot be found."
  

  Link +1 / -0