Posts by Oubliette

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Bethel Provides Excellent Clarification of "This Generation"

by berrygerry in

bethel clarifies "this generation" via letter.

/s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctzzxpiqj2w.

Oubliette

Jesus "evidently meant ..."

Silly me. I like my "evidentlys" to have actual evidence!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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New light from GB member David Splane!

by Island Man in

in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

"suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

would he be part of joseph's generation?

Oubliette

EdenOne: LOL you just can't make this stuff up, can you?

No YOU can't, but THEY can, ... and do.

In fact, they doo-doo!

Let's review: It's a cult!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

George: At about the 12 minute point Splane states categorically that all the members of the current Governing Body are in the second group. That includes Sanderson who some are here questioning.

That is an interesting detail.

I still wonder if Sanderson started partaking in his 20s. As I said above, that would have been quite unusual in the late '80s/early '90s. At least in the areas of SoCal where I was an elder at the time, he would have been looked upon with a great deal of suspicion.

More likely, it's a bit of revisionist history. Who knows when Sanderson started partaking! It doesn't matter. It's all a delusion.

The GB can say anything at this point and the R&F will lap it up like hungry little dogs.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

by C0ntr013r in

i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

Oubliette

EdenOne, as I recall, that is "an experience" published in an Awake! mag back in the '80s or thereabouts.

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

stuck: Why are we all trying to make sense of this stuff?

That is a really good point!

In case I wasn't clear, my explication was intended to show just that: This is all nonsense!

WT "theology" is incoherent and internally inconsistent. The GB is under the delusion that the use of the word "evidently" somehow suffices for actual evidence.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

NSWTG: if he was anointed at 21 then that is 1986 well before 1992

IF he claimed to be anointed before Franz died, THEN you would be right.

Do you know this for a certainty?

In the '80s and '90s it would have been very unusual for a 20-something punkass JW to claim to be anointed.

It is possible, just extremely unlikely. As far as I can tell, the GB is not providing any details one way or the other. They don't really like to give anything that resembles evidence, do they?

By the way, let's get one thing straight: NO ONE IS ANOINTED BY HOLY SPIRIT. That notion is a myth.

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Getting it out of my system, a VERY long introduction/outpouring..

by adimmedlight in

warning, novel ahead:.

after a few months of lurking on this site, i've decided to take the plunge...i don't really care so much about introducing myself, but somehow there is some relief in the thought of getting my little story out there, just getting it out of my system.

i am the oldest of 5 kids.

Oubliette

Welcome!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

Listener: Oubliette's chart is more accurate ...

That's funny. And I don't even believe this shit.

I actually seriously believe they plagiarized my chart. I posted it on this site in response to the January 15, 2014 WT more than a year and a half ago.

They didn't refer to Fred Franz in that article. Now they do.

FayeDunaway: Oubliette, they should have copied your graph more precisely, it's a lot better!!! Theirs is a mess TRYING to be yours

Agreed. Although I think they have come to like being a bit more vague. It gives them more wiggle room later on, not that they need it. The faithful JWs will swallow without question any bullshit the GB print.

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015): Serving Single - Do not use JW dating sites!

by Designer Stubble in

around the 39:00 minute mark the focus shifts to a single sister who cannot find a mate.

at the 42:30 minute mark she states "i cannot believe it crossed my mind...to look on jw dating sites".

guess a new unwritten rule is added to the many oral traditions of these pharisees.

Oubliette

How ironic: No use of DATING sites, meanwhile Splane is trying to explain their DATING to prove we are in the last days.

Let's review: It's a cult!

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

Oubliette

This Overlapping Generation teaching is really complete nonsense.

I year or so ago, I trying to wrap my head around the latest "update" to it in that week's WT Study article; not to try and understand it--because, hey, it's nonsense--but to make clear to any lurkers how silly and implausible it all is. - Watchtower, January 15, 2014, p. 30-31, paragraphs 14 - 16.

Here's my take on it then and now (see also my chart posted above):

So, apparently, there are now three groups of "anointed" ones:

Those anointed before 1914
Those anointed after 1914, but before the death of the last of those in group #1.
Those anointed after the death of the last person in group #1. (See point #2 above)

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Although not mentioned in the January 2014 article, the key person in this concept is Frederick William Franz. Born in 1893, Franz was baptized in 1913 or 1914, making him part of the first group. He is also presumably the last person of the first group to die. Franz died on December 22, 1992.

According to the January 2014 WT, the first two groups comprise the "this generation" that Jesus mentioned at Matthew 24:34, albeit in an "overlapping" manner. The third group is explicitly NOT part of "this generation."

Thus, not every anointed person today is included in “this generation” of whom Jesus spoke. - w2014, 1/15, p. 32, para. 16

Careful readers of this month's talk by Splane and previous study articles will note that there is no scriptural references or evidence of any kind to support this new twist on the "Overlapping Generation" idea. It is all just unfounded assertion.

But hey, who needs evidence when you're the leaders of a cult.