Posts by Oubliette

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Jehovah's Witnesses - People of Integrity

by Saved_JW in

when i think of integrity, a lot of positive connotations come to mind.

i think of individuals grounded in principles, who do not operate on opinions that change based on the breeze of political or social change.

a life that is directed by a code of morality, not on capricious emotions.

Oubliette

Are Jehovah's Witnesses people of Integrity? The short answer to this is YES. Jehovah's Witnesses are some of the most loyal people around.

No. Loyalty and integrity are not synonymous.

You began with this:

I think of individuals grounded in principles, who do not operate on opinions that change based on the breeze of political or social change. A life that is directed by a code of morality, not on capricious emotions.

By those standards alone JWs fail the test of integrity BECAUSE they are blindly obedient (what you call "loyalty") to the GB.

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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny

by cofty in

in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.

source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.

is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.

Oubliette

Heaven: But this is contradictory to what the prophet Mohammed/Muhammad (however you spell it) said about most of the dwellers in Hell being women. Is there somewhere different that the men are going besides Paradise or Hell?

I guess they're coming your way!

Seriously, these nutty religious ideas clearly make no sense and defy even basic logic. I suppose either Mohammed was either bad at math and logical thinking or he knew that most humans are or both.

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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny

by cofty in

in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.

source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.

is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.

Oubliette

GT: I'm actually completely over religion being a protected group. Keep your superstitions to yourselves.

Who are you addressing?

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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny

by cofty in

in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.

source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.

is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.

Oubliette

VI: So, a little bit of logic here. Most women don't make it to Paradise but there's a hundred for every man?

It makes perfect sense. Most women do NOT make it, and obviously only 100th of the men do!

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Islam is the Epitome of Misogyny

by cofty in

in this video the popular saudi cleric sheik yahya al-jana discusses the joys of paradise, saying that men will have the strength of a hundred men in paradise and will be busy tearing hymens, while the virgins of paradise, whose breasts are like pomegranates, become virgins every time again.. the cleric also explains it is mostly men who enter paradise noting that women in general are bad because they refuse to wear the veil, they wear tight clothes in shopping malls, put on perfume and jewelry, and use filthy social media platforms.

source.... this is what young men from conservative muslim families are raised on.

is it any wonder islamic countries treat women appallingly?.

Oubliette

What a nutcase!

What's with their obsession with virgins?!?

I prefer a woman that knows what she's doing.

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The right to shun - wrong?

by Simon in

many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

Oubliette

Saintbertholdt: What help do young atheists need? I'm not being snarky.

Just because someone doesn't believe in God doesn't mean they know how to think.

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The right to shun - wrong?

by Simon in

many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

Oubliette

Simon: We should be doing is focusing on educating people, not trying to fight for something that is unattainable.

Absolutely. And this is what I do, one high school student at a time. Every day of every work week, and sometimes on weekends!

No, I don't have a website presumptuously proclaiming to speak for the "silent majority," but I do have a website dedicated to educating young minds, teaching them how to think critically and logically in a number of different subjects and disciplines.

I may only affect a relatively small number of people, but I know I make a difference in their lives, whether they are JWs, Jews, Catholics, Born-Again Christians, Muslims or atheists.

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The right to shun - wrong?

by Simon in

many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

Oubliette

Interesting question Simon.

I haven't read the entire thread and am only jumping in (late in the conversation, I know) addressing the points in the OP.

It's important for us to recognize that what is right or wrong is not the same as what is legal or illegal.

Also, that any individual has the right to shun anyone else is surely not the same as institutionalized, coerced shunning as practiced by cults such as Jehovah's Witnesses and many others.

If you don't want to talk to me, then I guess that's your right. But if you won't talk to me because someone else told you to, then that's just messed up: you're in a cult!

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Hours will be going up

by pbrow in

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just got done watching parts of the october episode at jdub.broadcasting and it looks like the definition of "sacred service" is getting an update.

construction work, helping out fellow dubs, even helping out non-beliebers and opposers will soon be adding up to record progress for publishers... gett ready for a huge increase in hours being reported.... can you hear it now??

my how jw.org provides.... pbrow.

Oubliette

When will they include browsing jw.org as "Sacred Service"?

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What’s the deal with all the Smart-Educated JWs?

by John Aquila in

we talk a lot about most jws being uneducated, uninformed, and that they lack critical thinking skills, but in my area there is a lot of jws that went to the university, medical school, law school, and came back to the organization.

in my circuit, that i know of, we had two electrical engineers, one computer engineer with a ph.d. eight teachers with a bachelors degree and three of those with a masters in education.

we had two medical doctors, one was a pediatrician who closed his business about 3 years ago and went to bethel.

Oubliette

JA: It may be that most of these educated people are in the process of waking up. And as you know, the process takes time.

Agreed.

It took me about six or seven years from the time I began having serious doubts to the time I actually left the religion.

Of course, the last few years I was "in" I was just going through the motions because I didn't want to get DF'd and lose my family. Ultimately it didn't matter.

Although I am currently technically a JW in "good standing" none of my JW family and former "friends" talk to me because I don't go to their insipid little meetings.