Posts by GodZoo

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Leaving the JWs

by Hurting in

i am 32 years and have recently left the organisation.

i got baptised in last feb. please excuse any typing errors i have dyslexia.

it has been so hard this year i have gone through so many ups and downs.

GodZoo

Dear Hurting.. your story is not the slightest bit boring but actually very moving. I'm very saddened to hear stories like this of children not being accepted and loved for just being.

Learning to love yourself properly after the organisation has basically taught you to feel and treated you like you are useless unworthy trash is not easy but very very doable and possible. The only hard part is getting their judgmental crap out of your mind and being which takes a fare bit of conscious work.

This I know because I have had to do it myself. Just go day by day.. even hour by hour.. or even thought by thought. You are valuable and precious and amazing and worthy of love and don't ever let anyone try to show you otherwise

The place you are leaving is not and never was real.. the friendships and relationships were all fake and conditional. As soon as you get that into your head it becomes so much easier to let it all go and realise you have actually lost nothing.

You will find tremendous support and resources here. Be discerning and take what you need.. and leave the rest.

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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision

by cofty in

each little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.

what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.

this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.

GodZoo

Here comes the gang..

And by the way, I can remember my childhood way back to 12 months of age - its accuracy verified by my aunt, grandmother and mother's diary.

12 months is not good enough. I even very much doubt that... you may think you can.. your memories are all selective and fragmented.

Tit bits from your childhood does not equate with being accurate as to what humans were supposedly doing 65 million years ago for goodness sake. What massive acts of faith I'm seeing displayed here.. stated with the same sure rock solid arrogant and unshakable confidence you displayed when you were all full time pioneers..

You are all still what you were.. simply wearing different clothes.

"Life changes.. people do not."

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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision

by cofty in

each little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.

what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.

this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.

GodZoo

Cofty and Co.. you have no idea what my views or beliefs are as I have not stated any yet you assume I'm of a particular camp. All I have said is that people don't simply buy into your version of 'truth' merely because you write it all out so neatly with big words and big names attached.

There is no hominem attack here either as you and your Detective ally seem to think.. I just pointed out accurately that your three statements directed at me were in fact presumptuous, insulting and labelled me as ignorant (as I have seen you do in countless other threads). How does this get twisted into an ad-hominem attack for goodness sake?

Scene: You throw stones at me.. I collect stones together and ask why are you throwing these stones at me? You then accuse me of violence? WFT!?

I'm not attacking the the man.. I'm just poking and rattling the ideas that come from the man.

Anyway.. bullshit aside.. I was not refuting much.. I just have issues with the accuracy of things like '65 billion years ago humans started wearing Bermuda shorts'.. These are such incomprehensibly colossal chucks of time to be guessing things about.

You say things are becoming more and more accurate but that's really still not the truth is it now, or necessarily fact either. It's just 'light getting brighter and brighter'.

And we all know where following that train of junk leads.

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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision

by cofty in

each little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.

what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.

this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.

GodZoo

Your entire response consists of three insults.. always your defence is to accuse people of ignorance.

1. Would it not be more intelligent...

2. Or do you think you know something that thousands of scientists have overlooked all these decades?

No disrespect but yes actually.. the same way I don't gullibly buy into what thousands of extremely highly educated and equally clever religious nuts have been saying far longer than your scientists I don't easily swallow what a geek in a lab coat and some letters after his name says either despite how many friends he may have.

Science has made some whopping great errors and also adhere to the 'new light' theory as much as those clowns in the other camp. The 'thousands can't be wrong' concept does not carry much weight either as thousands and even millions very often are wrong.

3. I am willing to bet you have no actual interest in knowing the facts.

Such a gamble is extremely presumptuous and ignorant but very telling.

Maybe that should be rephrased: "I am willing to bet you have no actual interest in simply swallowing my facts".

Like everyone else I would love to know the facts about everything but you simply stating they are such and labelling everyone as ignorant if they don't accept the views you promote is of really no help.

You are now on your 'Evolution is a fact No.26' and judging by the paucity of responses I'm guessing your support base either does not exist as much as you like to imagine or people simply don't buy it.

Cofty your style of preaching is always the same: "Take what I say as fact or be labelled an idiot."

How's that working out for you?

'GoodZoo'.. I'm not so good.

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OKAY, GAME OVER! The number one reason the New Testament amounts to bunk

by Terry in

for me, the dead giveaway is this.

jesus wrote nothing.. stop and think about that.. if jesus were the authentic messiah, his ministry would not simply be local.. his instructions, his mission, the details of his teachings would be too precious to risk leaving it in the hands of "men unlettered (illiterate) and ordinary (blue-collar yokels).".

jesus, were he the one and only hope of mankind, would be absolutely certain to write down with great simplicity and specificity the exact owner's manual necessary to rescue mankind.. never happened!.

GodZoo

Cofty I think you were very clear the first time and myelaine knows exactly what you meant but is just plainly dodging the issue and being disingenuous as most religious people do when nailed or cornered.

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Evolution is a Fact #26 - Colour Vision

by cofty in

each little flower that opens,each little bird that sings,he made their glowing colours,he made their tiny wings.. all of us have been moved by the riot of colours in a spring meadow, the majesty of a sunset or the beauty of a bird in breeding plumage.

what greater evidence could there be of a loving creator than our colourful world and the human eye that is equipped to appreciate it?.

this is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of creationists about their beliefs.. it's time to "unweave the rainbow".. light is detected by a proteins called opsins.

GodZoo

Following the sudden demise of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago our ancestors began to thrive. Lots of vacant niches were available to be exploited including the opportunity to feed in daylight.

"This is the sort of simplistic argument that convinces a lot of evolutionists about their beliefs."

It amazes me how people can look at their watch and state with such certainty that this or that happened 65 million years ago give or take a few trillion years..

People can not even remember their own childhoods accurately yet they want you to believe and base your reality on what they say happened 65 million years ago?

Let's be honest it all sounds very clever and precise but the truth is no one really has a clue and are just wildly stabbing in the dark.

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THOUGHTS ON UPGRADING TO (Free) WINDOWS 10

by Terry in

jw
friends

i've been using windows 7 for several years and have had no complaints.. i've tried many browsers and settled on google chrome.

it has absolutely everything i want or need.. i kept hearing about the free upgrade to windows 10, so i went to youtube and watched endless "reviews" pro and con.. what pushed me over the (microsoft edge) was the fact i could test drive the new operating system.

for 30 days and go back to windows 7 if i didn't like it!

GodZoo

Yes I did say something similar in another thread of yours because you did exactly the same thing there too. You ask a question pretending that it's an open discussion. Then you proceed to invalidate everyone's view, opinion or experience and then present your own to be the absolute and perfect truth on the matter. That's what JW's do at the door and in all their talks.. start with a question when they only real intention is to preach from their very closed and rigidly fixed pre-set perspective and as such it's really a complete waste of time to try to have any real conversation or attempt to impart anything to such people.

Love and hate are very strong words.

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Do you still believe in God?

by FormerlySandL in

i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

GodZoo

I think I have removed the word belief entirely from my life. I try to go these days by what I have actually experienced.

It might be more useful and more accurate to ask people of they think they have actually experienced God as belief by itself is quite useless to anyone.

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THOUGHTS ON UPGRADING TO (Free) WINDOWS 10

by Terry in

jw
friends

i've been using windows 7 for several years and have had no complaints.. i've tried many browsers and settled on google chrome.

it has absolutely everything i want or need.. i kept hearing about the free upgrade to windows 10, so i went to youtube and watched endless "reviews" pro and con.. what pushed me over the (microsoft edge) was the fact i could test drive the new operating system.

for 30 days and go back to windows 7 if i didn't like it!

GodZoo

Lol..this makes me laugh.. no matter what Terry asks, on any subject, no matter what, he always absolutely, right, in everything, forever..

Even when he asks your opinion or experience on anything.. he's always absolutely right about that too.. in everything, forever. Need know what you feel? Ask Terry. Need to know what you know? Ask Terry.

Reminds me of God's conversation with Job.. pretending to ask questions when in fact God was right about everything all the time.

Incredible. That's quite a gift you have there Terry. Humans must bore you so much.

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A fresh start

by FormerlySandL in

after the worst introduction i could ever make on the forum i would like to reintroduce myself and make a fresh start on the forum and hopefully over time i will be able to redeem myself.

i have changed my user name which was over dramatic and ridiculous in the cold light of day but for transparency and to show i am not trying to hide anything i have adapted the original name and it now has a more positive feel.

after reading a lot of posts on this forum i am feeling more optimistic about my future.

GodZoo

I knew you just had to change that name lol..

hopefully over time I will be able to redeem myself

You may have made others do this when you disfellowshipped them as an elder but you won't have to go through that here.