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  It's OK to be an Apostate ... but only if you're on the Governing Body

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  look at the governing body.

  none of them believe now what the wts believed back when they were born and later baptized.. so why aren't they disfellowshipped for apostasy?.

  simple - because the true beliefs are always taken to mean whatever they currently consider them to be.. think about it - they can never be apostates because whatever they decide to believe becomes "the truth" and anyone not believing it is then guilty of apostasy, even if they believe things the wts has taught them all their lives.. if you do believe in the bible and jesus story, do you think this is what he intended?

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  Guardians of the Apostacy
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  Please how can I create a website?

  by COLLINS in

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  2. friends

  please i want someone to teach me how i create websites.thanks!.

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  Start with something like codeacademy.com. If you can go through that, you might be able to start building your own site. If not, find someone to do it.
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  Who would you vote for Today?

  by James Mixon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  d. trump or h. clinton and why.. i would vote for gun slinging trump..

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  If we are to continue our slide into the abyss, I think Trump is the best man for the job.
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  Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife is taking a literature course at a local college.

  this was her final topic of the semester: why rational people buy into conspiracy theories?i automatically thought of this site and of jws.

  the jws i knew, were the kind of people that would believe in conspiracy theories, and i noticed a small following on this site.. the article that was referenced for this course was: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?_r=0.

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  I guess it all depends on the theory or the conspiracy. I do however believe that some could be true. If one wants to believe that none exist that's fine but don't treat me like a wacko if I choose to believe some.

  Since we're on an ex-jw forum, let's take that as an example. Are the JW leadership running a conspiracy? Damn right they are. The conspiracy is to keep members in the dark and suck every penny out of their pockets. Is it working? Yes it is. So if it can work on a small scale like the JWs, it can also work on a much larger scale.

  I keep to myself, observe and draw my own conclusions.
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  Elder On Tablet During Prayer

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during a prayer in the kh all our eyes are supposed to be closed, right?

  i've never been one to fully my eyes during prayers.

  i'll close them down, but just enough that i can still peep around at what's happening without being noticed.. there's something i've noticed a certain elder doing for the second time now.

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  Elders usually have the "god he knows me and he knows I'm right" attitude. They really are a bunch of hypocrites and I can't stand them. Chosen by holy spirit...yeah right.
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  Hi noobie here.

  by Grags in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi my name is graham (but i much prefer to be called grags), i'm a 38 year old married man from the uk and have been studying with the witnesses for about 3 months.

  i do a study every saturday and love every minute.

  in john 6: 16-24 jesus's disciples get onto a boat without jesus and set off.

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  Welcome Grags.

  I think they are separate events.

  Keep reading here with an open mind. The truth will set you free.
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  What would happen ??

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there is a certain elder in my wives hall that has seemed to developed a real interest her.

  first he seemed to feel a need to make sure all her blood cards were signed before she gave birth to our child.. he sends her text messages if she misses a meeting saying how much " we missed you last night ".

  he finally sent her a text wondering where her oct hours were , knowing she had some pretty serious tears from child birth and could hardly even walk, much less do field service ".

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  I'd be very suspicious of any man who is tip toeing around my wife behind my back. If it makes you feel uncomfortable then he needs to know and stop.

  However, if you plan to talk to this man, I wouldn't do it without my wife's knowledge. Let her know that you do not intent on making this a big issue or causing disruptions. He just needs to stop. If he wants to encourage her he should do it publicly at the hall. And by that I mean no backroom shenanigans.

  You have every right to tell this guy to back off. And make certain they (other elders) understand that it shouldn't have any negative effects on your wife. If you see she is being treated differently, involve the CO.

  Good luck
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  Jehovah's witnesses are the fastest growing religion.

  by hoser in

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  that is what the speaker said in his public talk this morning.

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  They are getting overweight. Too many donuts I say.
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  Pop Trivia

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so many serious topics lately ... so for anyone who wants a break, it's trivia time and the subject is pop music.. which act is the only one to have a top 100 hit both before, during and after the beatles had theirs?.

  no googling.

  if you guess, you also need to add a trivia question for others to answer..

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  Has to be a Motown group. Can't remember the name (since I'm not allowed to google..lol) but it's something like expectations or something like that.
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  Catholic madly in love with a JW (cont'd)

  by Luge62 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  those of you who read my last post, about two weeks ago, know i'm in a dilemma.

  i did not run like some posts suggested.

  i truly believe i found my soulmate.

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  TheMark

  The only way a JW can divorce is if their partner has committed adultery. For JWs, it's called scriptural divorce. You cannot ask for a divorce if you're the guilty party. She can divorce in a court of law but the JW won't recognize it.

  You mention she is being shunned. Has she been disfellowshipped? If not, I doubt she is being shunned.

  It takes years if not decades to break free of the JW's cult mind control. Get ready for the roller coaster ride and the mind games. Even if she leaves to be with you, the guilt will continue and she will be continuously torn inside. JWs believe the end is just around the corner and if she's not a witness when that comes she's dead meat. It takes years to get rid of that mindset and it's very strong. You have no idea the fear it creates. There's always going to be that back and forth between her trying to be saved and destruction. She might be able to push it in the back of her mind for some periods but the guilt and fear eventually come back. If she leaves, get her into therapy ASAP.

  I've done some crazy things because of love, so I can empathize with you. Good luck.

  Oh, and one more thing. JWs are trained to be very good liars so watch yourself.