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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-26-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 10-26-03 wt study

  wt quotes will be in

  he wrote: "whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.

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  Roddy

  Thanks everyone for your replies.

  I think I read in one of Franz' books, I don't remember which one, where somewhere in the WT Society there was an unofficial kind of book where all their beliefs and teachings were cataloged and organized. It was just an internal way of keeping all their teachings straight - or straighter. But I think the story goes that when Knorr found out it that he had it destroyed. Now that the Old Guard are losing their memories and probably too old to do anything, I guess their teachings are best based on whatever the WT officially wrote in the magazines the last time, plus whatever anyone remembers.

  Other organized religions have their articles of faith which everyone can read and understand up front. With JWs its all dependant on whatever came out at the last summer convention, or watchtower, whichever came lastest. I believed that it was just "new light". But I was fooled. The Bible is timeless.

  Sometimes I think they just like to constantly keep spinning in order to keep their presses going. What other reason could there be???
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-26-03 WT Study

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the 10-26-03 wt study

  wt quotes will be in

  he wrote: "whatever things are true, whatever things are of serious concern, whatever things are righteous, whatever things are chaste, whatever things are lovable, whatever things are well spoken of, whatever virtue there is and whatever praiseworthy thing there is, continue considering these things.

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  Roddy

  This is very interesting, Blondie. Good research.

  I'm curious about one thing. Why is it that they keep regurgintating (sp?) material from past issues? Doesn't anyone at the Watchtower write original articles anymore? Did something happen to their writing committee?

  I'm just wondering.
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  Movies JW style

  by VeniceIT in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a friend and i were chatting tonight and he got on the subject of jw movie themes.

  what if wts took over the film industry, what kind of movies would we see (using previous movie titles.

  ) it was entertaining and i knew you guys could come up with some good ones.. ted jarez and the chamber of secrets.

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  Roddy

  Oops! I meant ...

  Sister Debbie does Dallas, ... and Denver, ... and Detroit, ...

  But you get the idea!
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  Movies JW style

  by VeniceIT in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a friend and i were chatting tonight and he got on the subject of jw movie themes.

  what if wts took over the film industry, what kind of movies would we see (using previous movie titles.

  ) it was entertaining and i knew you guys could come up with some good ones.. ted jarez and the chamber of secrets.

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  Roddy

  All of these are good!!! LOL!! I thought of a few. I hope yall find them funny.

  The Time Bandits

  Out of Bethel

  Witnesses

  Memorial in Connecticuit

  What a Sister Wants

  Debbie does Dallas, ... and Denver, ... and Detroit, ... LOL!!!!!!
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  Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

  by Jourles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

  regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

  well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

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  Roddy

  >>In summary, I think as J-duds we were trained to roll over and take it. J-duds give in too easily, they rat themselves out at the drop of a hat. Just because they say it, don't make it so! Make them work for it, and if I've learned one thing in my time as a Dud, NEVER TELL THEM ANYTHING THEY CAN HURT YOU WITH! <<

  True words. They love to come with "Trust in Jehovah" and "Leave the matter with Jehovah" when they really mean "Leave the matter to us and go away quietly."

  I've also learned another thing the hard way which you meantioned: NEVER EVER volunteer information. Never be totally honest with the elders. And always have something nice to say about yourself, others, and the weather. Being unsinkably upbeat annoys them to no end. And they can't get to you with one of their tactics to guilt trip you and make you a sinner where you NEED their help and the help of the the Faithful and Discreet Slave and all their wonderful spiritual provisions. Sheesh - I can still talk like them! ARRRGH
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  Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

  by Jourles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

  regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

  well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

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  >>Statement of Baptism Nullification <<

  This is good. Nice and legal sounding, covers your assets, and tells it likes it is.

  Were you ever an insider in the WTS Legal Dept? Bravo at sticking it to them with their own methods! But serioiusly, God bless you! This could be the loophole for those that want to leave The Org peacefully while still holding-on to and maintaining their dear relationships of family and friends still stuck in there.
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  Submitting a DA letter and walking away?

  by Jourles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been perusing through the many boe documents i have recently received and noticed something interesting.

  regarding ones who disassociate themselves, there have been many discussions on this board where people tell others not write a letter as you are giving away any legal footing you may have against the society.

  well, it appears that there are two routes you can take without officially getting da'd, according to the society's own documents.

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  Roddy

  >>This last week I downloaded the NGO letters posted here and sent copies Monday morning to all the JW gossip mongers I knew and put this PO's return address on them. My spies told me they had an Elders meeting Wed. night that was very heated. I'm not done yet! Maverick<<

  You bad boy ... I love it! That ranks right up there with the suggestion to call the WTS, give your name as the PO, and start asking questions as to why we need to believe in a Faithful and Descreet Slave.

  HA HA
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  The "Watch Tower B. & S. Society" handwriting

  by Roddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me toss this up and see if anyone has an answer.. recall the rubberstamp handwriting that serves as the 'signature' in the bottom of all wts correspondence?

  anyone knows the history of this sloppy handwriting?

  who was the author?

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  Roddy

  Let me toss this up and see if anyone has an answer.

  Recall the rubberstamp handwriting that serves as the 'signature' in the bottom of all WTS correspondence? Anyone knows the history of this sloppy handwriting? Who was the author? And why they use it? I also wonder why "Watch Tower" is two words instead of one word?

  Ever curious,

  ROD
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  Did You Know ....? [Rutherford]

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  1. that judge rutherford had a mistress.

  2. that he died from a fall down the basement stiars where he cracked open his skull and the rats fed on him.. 3. that his son, malcolm, left immediately after his father became president and lived the life of a hermit, never to speak to or about his father until in death in 1995.. 4. that the judge was a womenizer, alcoholic and racist and dabbled with the occult.. _______________.

  never take a laxative and a sleeping pill on the same night.. edited by - rr on 27 january 2001 13:44:18

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  Roddy

  >>The events of his death were reported by some Bible Students I know very well. Rutherford was to appear at a convention to speak, when he failed to show up, some of the friends went to pay him a visit, they found him lying in the basement, his face fed on by rats, rumors have it of course that Rutherford was buried on the property of Beth Sarim, in private conversation, Fred Franz admits to this, however no one has never seen the supposed grave of Rutherfod anywhere!<<

  I realize that this is an old thread. But someone posted a reply, it became current again, and it got my interest.

  I have to admit, there has never been any mention of Rutherford's death in the WTS articles. I know about the death of Russell but always the same story that he died on a train while enroute.

  Years later I understand why Russell's grave was never mentioned. An no autopsy? But I wonder about Rutherford. Come to think of it, how about Knorr, Franz, Milton??????? Why is the WTS so silent?

  I think the part about rats feeding on Rutherford's dead face is amazing. Amazing if it was true and amazing if it was false. I wonder if the funeral was an open casket ceremony? That's a new one. I heard that he was a tobacco smoker but a drinker and a womanizer as well? And this was the president of JWs? That too is amazing.

  Anybody know of posts, links, or books that talks about the death and burial of the WTS presidents?
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  Gh Gh Gh GHOST!!!!

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just got back from columbus, ohio, where i attended a bible student convention, i stayed with some friends.

  one of the speakers was from san diego, ca.

  and we stayed at the same home, in the evening he was telling us about beth sarim, having live just a few miles from there.

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  Roddy

  <<Here's the strange thing. The family who live there are the original owners who purchased the house from the Society.Two sisters who grew up the house told this story. Their father shortly after living in the house became a drunk and womenizer. They say the house is haunted by the ghost of Rutherford's mistress, a blonde hair women who walks around the house.>>

  That is very interesting, RR.

  I've noticed during my upbringing that JWs are more superstitious than most people regarding spirits and the occult. They wouldn't go to garage sales nor get anything used nor accept anything that was prior owned unless it came from a JW family that is strong in the religion. They fear the constant possiblity that the previous people had evil spirit influences because they don't follow the "truth" and that even spirits attach to items they own. When you bring their items you bring those wicked spirits in too.

  I wonder what wild parties Rutherford did in that house - it being way at the other side of the country in an exclusive neighborhood, I assume, where the average JW family wouldn't normally afford a home there and notice the goings that goes on over time.