Ah yes, hernia surgery. I had two, one in the late 70s and one in 1992. After the first few days, you just need to be careful - most of the pain by then should have subsided.....if I remember correctly.
Good luck!
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Going under "the knife" in about 6 and a half hours.
by gumby inwell, it's time.
monday morning the 17th at 6 am i go in for ye ol' hernia operation.
i asked to be put "out" as i had the option for staying partially awake.
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Should I renounce my baptism to the JW organization?
by outbutnotdown ini got baptized in 1986, when i was 17. i got df'd in 1992, when i was 22.
(april birthday.. df'd early in 1992.... .
i don't want to sound like i am complaining about this next part because i actually have a very happy life right now with very few exceptions/concerns.
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In response to your question about masturbation, when I was an elder we had a young man, college age, admit to us that he had a masturbation problem after he went through the questions for baptism. The three elders involved in the questions process discussed it briefly and gave him the green light for baptism anyway. We didn't think it was that big a deal. So considering a baptism invalid due just to that might not wash anyway.
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Faced with loss of tax breaks, Danish WTS drops "Bible-Based" stance
by Nathan Natas infrom an awake!
correspondent in cyber-space:
with the threat of removal of tax breaks hanging over their heads, watchtower has changed from ther bible-based position.
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rocketman
Ditto on Blondie's comment - I'm wondering the same thing.
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Proof There is No Jehovah
by new light inif you believe in jehovah as portrayed in the bible, you believe that you are a creature possessing free will.
you don't believe in fate or predestination.
you believe that jehovah selectively answers prayers.
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Good point New Light.
For example, God supposedly used Nebuchadnezzar to discipline Israel in
607587 BC. Apparently, Nebby was on board for this and more than willing to conquer Israel.But let's say that Nebby had no such inclination. Would God have still "used" him, or someone else?
Another example, going back to that illustration I used about an employee and boss. Let's say the employee goes to the boss and the boss agrees to try solving the issue. Let's say though that this issue somehow must involve another emplyee to implement the new course of action. The boss tells the other employee that he must do it. That employee has no choice in the matter and is not acting out of free will. On the other hand, one might argue that employees choose to work and hence know beforehand that they may be asked to do things they don't necessarily choose to do.
Maybe God, as universal shot-caller, reserves the right to use anyone he wants to do anything he pleases. Since God is supposedly good, his doing this would not cause lasting harm to anyone whom he enlists as his gopher.
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Proof There is No Jehovah
by new light inif you believe in jehovah as portrayed in the bible, you believe that you are a creature possessing free will.
you don't believe in fate or predestination.
you believe that jehovah selectively answers prayers.
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BUT I don't believe in the biblical idea of God as the great vending machine in the sky.
Gee, thanks for bursting my bubble Sirona......I was about to ask God for a Hershey bar.
Anyway, though I hardly pray, I'll take a stab at this topic. I'd imagine that, since prayer usually involves asking God for some type of intervention on some level (not counting prayers that simply give thanks), we are in effect suspending our own free will in the matter because we've turned the matter over to him, to his providence one might say.
I guess it might be likened to having a problem at work and going to the boss about it. Once we do, the boss's opinion now becomes a factor and usually then supersedes our own. We've handed the matter over, and along with it, some if not all of the choices on a possible course of action.
When a jw or most other Christians for that matter give their lives over to the service of God, the expression is often used that they are doing his will and that they are letting him now decide what's best for them. It's their choice to do that, which is an act of free will in itself (putting aside for now whether most jws are in fact pressured into making such a choice), but one in which they seem to be invoking God's will on their future life course and decision-making, hence surrendering to a degree their own free will in favor of God's will.
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Just wanting to share something positive.
by BLISSISIGNORANCE inhello friends.
i have been away from the forum for a while and just wanted to drop in to say a quick hi to all.. i was looking through some of the posts and remembering how i felt a couple of years ago when my entire family walked away from the borg, and the reasons for leaving.
there was so much hurt and sadness, confusion and anger, and of course fear!.
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The kids are living their lives, making their mistakes etc, but I'm there for them enjoying a relationship with them and loving them no matter what. I go to birthday parties and celebrate mine and my family's. I have dinners, go to the movies, enjoy the company of my friends, am free from judging my 'associations' and I just accept people. I don't worry about how I'm using my time and how I view money
I think that demonstrates one of the biggest benefits of leaving the jws. Relationships often prosper because the previous conditions (strict adherence to wts teachings, a certain amount of hours in field service, etc) no longer need to be met in order to enjoy one another's company.
Also, we begin to look at simple activities (like going to a movie) as something that we need not fear because we'll somehow be 'wrongly influenced' by what we watch, and we need not fear association with good and decent people simple because they may not share our religious views.
This is good news and very positive indeed. Good post!
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15th July WT ...Islam is the King of the North??
by caspian inif this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
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Dogpatch. thanks for the post and links. It seems the wts has changed their teaching on this subject even more than I had originally thought....not that that's a surprise, of course.
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15th July WT ...Islam is the King of the North??
by caspian inif this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
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If the wts does name Islam (or Islamic fundamentalism) as King Uh Duh North, my guess is that they will try to connect the dots from the USSR via the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, perhaps pointing out that the Soviet effort was frustrated by the Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden.
But again, such an application would be a huge reach - something that obviosuly the wts has been good at in the past.
It may well be failed prophecy, or at an least extremely problematic one, especially once speculation on application goes outside the realm of the original Selucid and Ptolomaic powers.
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15th July WT ...Islam is the King of the North??
by caspian inif this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
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I was pointing out proximity to the US because the US is not geographically south of the holy land anyway. If two entities are each N and S of the same area, that would make them also N and S in relation to each other. It just seems to me that the wts got into trouble with their interpretation once they get to the so-called "last days". Leolaia mentioned on the same thread the orginal Selucid-Ptolemaic designations, and yes, that is in proximity to the holy land and does not appear problematic at all. It simply seems to me that now the wts is starting to really reach if they indeed interpret Islam as King of the North.
Daniel 11 says:
40 "At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood. 41 He will also invade the Beautiful Land. Many countries will fall, but Edom, Moab and the leaders of Ammon will be delivered from his hand. 42 He will extend his power over many countries; Egypt will not escape. 43 He will gain control of the treasures of gold and silver and all the riches of Egypt, with the Libyans and Nubians in submission. 44 But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many. 45 He will pitch his royal tents between the seas at [6] the beautiful holy mountain. Yet he will come to his end, and no one will help him.
If it was the USSR that fulfilled verses 40-43, how can some other "King" fulfill the next two verses? It seems to me that verses 44 and 45 are describing an action that continues from the previous verses and hence would describe the actions of the same entity, not a new or different one.
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15th July WT ...Islam is the King of the North??
by caspian inif this has already been posted, i apologise for repeating it.
in the july wt, the writers have come up with the new theory that islam is the new king of the north.
i haven't seen the article yet, .
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If so, I'd like to know how Islam gets a Northerly designation, when in fact it's eastern in relation to the US. Also, it's a religion and not a nation with a "king" or ruler, so it would be unlike any other KON or KOS designation that I can recall from studying wts publications.