my parents are having a local needs part on facebook.
anyone else know of this and what is being said on it?.
It's just the latest thing to be demonized. If it's not some kind of toy, or some game, it's something on the Net. But it's always something. My guess is that most jws will simply ignore it or rationalize it away.
That said, it can be a time-consumer. If you have a lot of friends and you get their news feeds, you can spend hours on the thing, which I'm sure worries the WTS/elders. Add to that the potential for contact with apostates, this high-control group might have something to worry about.
in the recent thread about 'millions now living may/will never die', purplesofa said that the wts changed wording on watchtowers between magazine and bound volume.
i'd be interested to see some examples please!
this could be very useful to help someone i know see they are fallible.
Excellent examples Blondie thank you!
been out 13 years and even for research purposes, i find it way too painful to read this wt stuff.. and why?.
all the painful memories it brings back.
don't misread me, it has nothing to do with a guilty conscience.. it has to do with the real pain, the anger of being ripped off and lied too by the wts, the anger of seing how they have protected child molesters, sacrificed its followers by refusing blood transfusions, the treacherous way we and others were treated by the 'unloving brothers'.
I found it difficult too, and for a while pretty much left this board and all related boards. I'm back more often now; many of the topics are very thought-provoking and if I don't want to read jw-related material I simply avoid such threads.
4:14; 2 john 7).
6:15 with john 12:41).
john 2:1921).
Mad Sweeney wrote: "In fact, on many of those the WT is just as likely to be correct in its interpretation as mainstream Christendom. "
Good point. While interesting, this is simply a matter of one "Christian" denomination/group contending with the teachings of another by using so-called "proof" texts, most of which can be and are interpreted in different ways.
the article can be listened to from jw.org.
there is more than one question.
the first is about rebaptism.
It would be nice to see the article - QFR and WTS reply (to these fake "questions").
I'm with zombie dub on this. It seems they think that every time two people of the opposite sex are together alone, sex is suddenly going to happen.
One time I (married) was alone with a sister (also married) in field service because the other car group simply didn't show up in the territory. After some door-to-door, we went for coffee, and other jws were there. Later I received a call from a fellow elder who warned me of the "danger" of being alone with the sister.
Now really, what was going to happen? Were this woman and I going to suddenly go find a hotel room and hop into bed? Was one morning spent in field service going to lead to us forming some inappropriate emotional connection?
i've been on this site for a number of years now.
i don't easily trust just anybody.
having said that, there are a few persons here that know my real identity and i'm comfortable with them.. are there certain posters that you trust here?.
I trust some here whom I've known or known of for some time: Blondie, Farkel, Minimus, Elsewhere, Drwstn, etc. I've spoken to some members on the phone, and met with a few members about three years ago during a small Apostofest, during which I noted that all members present were pretty much the same as they presented themselves online.
The ones I trust least are generally the pro-jw posters. This is not due to philosophical disagreement, but mainly because I question why pro-jws would be at this site in the first place.
i am feeling sick after reading the question box - it's so cold and unfeeling toward those who use the telephone to listen to congregation meetings.. .
the wts desire to control their weakest members - the infirm and chronically ill - by guilting them into "putting forth the effort to be personally present " at the kingdom hall is disgusting.. .
they are heartless bastards.... ________________________________________.
Undercover wrote:
"Another way of looking at it... How many articles that mention the infrim and elderly actually talk about charity and the congregation looking after them and feeding them, and assisiting them? Very few, if any. Christian charity among their own is not important as meeting attendance."
This is where, I think, the religion really fails in this particular matter. And I also agree w Undercover that the KM statements are not the biggest deal, but do show the sly, manipulative techiniques used to guilt people.
But essentially, they don't want people just sitting home and listening in unless there's a good reason. That in itself is not so terrible. I can imagine there are some able-bodied jws who might kind of lazily rely on the phone system.
i finally saw that november 15th wt article on prayer that everyone has been talking about - the people in the photos look as stiff as corpses!.
people will be called in the back room for inadvertantly making contact with their spouse during prayer.. i think i will adopt the following stance during prayer now:.
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When this matter first came up in a previous thread, I mentioned that I wasn't bothered by it because the hand-holding seemed corny and pretentious to me. But I also mentioned that this can be taken and applied as a rule among the more judgmental jws.
Giving this further thought, it is a very worrisome development, because it does open the door to Pharisaic rule-making. The WTS need not say 'you can't' - other jws will take care of that. Those who 'might be stumbled' will take care of it too.
The same thing happens in many other areas of life that should be personal choice. The Society makes a statement on it (such as playing school sports) and the elders and other jws take it to the next level. And that level is virtually always more strict and pharisaic.
been a while since i posted here, but driving into work the other day i recalled how "excited" we all were when it was announced that scientists had discovered "proof" that there is a full "day" missing astronomically, for the exact period of time covered by joshua's having the sun stand still, and isaiah having the sun move backwards, sending the shadow back up the steps for hezekiah.. that got me searching jwd for a thread about this topic, and i didn't find one, but i did find this snopes article.. http://www.snopes.com/religion/lostday.asp.
I tend to lean toward the most simple explanation - that Daylight Savings Time was introduced by Joshua, not by Ben Franklin.
i know there was an article on john barr's comments at the annual meeting this year.
i've posted the reference below.
i'm wondering if they are thinking of changing the belief back to that some annointed alive in 1914 will be alive when the tribulation starts?
I'll believe that they are making yet another change when I see it in print (well, in print here, since I don't have access to the mags anymore). And just because it was mentioned in comments by John Barr or any other GB member does not, in itself, indicate that there's been a change - he may just be speaking of his own accord.
