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  Edward Dunlap Talks About The 1980 Witch Hunt At Bethel and The Faithful And Discrete Slave

  by frankiespeakin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etghbmuurwg.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgmfqab2m8.

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  rocketman

  Interesting. So Brother Dunlap essentially, as Terry already pointed out, had this thing pegged 33 years ago. And now it's becoming official doctrine.

  I will reiterate a post I made 12 days ago to a thread started by Cedars on this topic, and that is that this "new light" actually makes more sense. When I was a teenager, we had an old sister who partook and so was supposedly, back then, a member of the FDS Class. And yet I wondered how that could be the case when she (and thousands like her) never contributed anything in the way of direction or distribution of spirtual food.

  So it's very interesting to find out that Ed Dunlap had that same view. And again, this new understanding makes more sense, even though it is being taken generally in ex-jw circles as a further consolidation of power by the GB. And perhaps indeed it is. Whatever the case, it's actually, in my view (and apparently in Mr. Dunlap's view as well) that this a better interpretation.

  Of course, my main question now is: What took them so long?
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  rocketman

  OOps, I thought that was you Cedars. Well then, Ethan Hatcher has a cool hat.

  As for the cute blond, yes, I figured that was her husband next to her. Well, he married a nice-looking gal.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  rocketman

  After watching the video (which I couldn't do earlier today while at work) I have just one question:

  Who's the pretty blond with the British accent?

  Oh, and Cedars...cool hat!
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  rocketman

  Interesting endeavor to watch unfold.

  A wee bit of irony: A small, upstart group comes together with one its main objectives being to free people from bondage to [a] false religion. Sounds familar.
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  Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

  by barry in

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  i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

  one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

  please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

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  rocketman

  I attended a Baptist service some months back and they displayed their hymn lyrics on a screen, and I was surprised to see the name Jehovah. I was not aware that they used it in songs.

  It was a strange feeling, being a Witness and attending this service in a clandestine manner, and seeing the name on the screen.

  Incidentally, while I liked the service somewhat, with its casual dress and informal setting (not to mention people actually playing the songs on keyboards and guitar instead of the pre-recorded songs used at JW meetings) I didn't care for the sermon much, which was overly long and placed emphasis on going to hell if we don't get saved.
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  C.O. Reports: JWs/WTS "Reach Critical Mass...

  by BitterTruth in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses/wts have reached "critical mass" - says ex-circuit overseer.

  ------posting copied from h2o-----.

  posted by xelder [seeker4] on july 13, 2000 at 12:00:52 {rn3hpwrs1eubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.

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  At first I started reading the OP without checking the date. I thought, hmmmm, this is pretty interesting.

  Then I saw that it was written 12 years ago.

  So much for "critical mass".
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  Gumby?

  by talesin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  miss you, bro.

  just in case you still lurk, i wanted to let you know.

  i'm doing much better now, and no longer have the 'brother' issues.

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  I miss Gumby too. I watched him a lot when I was a kid. I liked the shape of his head. I had one of those flexible Gumbys too. And a Pokey.

  Oh and yes, I have wondered what happened to the member of this board named Gumby, whose head, I would surmise, was more normal-looking.
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  “New light” Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

  if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

  it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

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  One thing I will attempt to point out is that the 'change' in understanding about who attacks religion from 'the United Nations' to 'elements within the U.N.' and back to 'the United Nations' seems of little consequence. The UN is comprised of its members. When its members decide something, it is the same thing as saying that the UN decides something. The UN is not some entity that exists apart from its member nations.

  I think this 'change' is merely a different use of terminology, and that it could well be termed 'elements within the UN' or 'member nations of the UN' or something of that sort at a future time.

  And one more point Cedars: I don't think the charicature of you at the bottom of your articles does you any favors. It looks silly. You go to great lengths to write informative articles and then post an exaggerated comic of yourself, which, to me anyway, slightly undermines your effort.
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  First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower

  by cedars in

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  2. beliefs

  a trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.

  my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.

  watch this space!.

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  rocketman

  Actually, the apparent "new light" in this case, that the FDS is the Governing Body, makes more sense, to me anyway. Here's why:

  Years ago, we had an old sister around who was a partaker and thus supposedly part of the "Slave". But here was an old lady who contributed nothing to the feeding of the "domestics". Most of the anointed, in fact, do little to "feed" anyone spirtually.

  So from their standpoint, it makes more sense that a group directly involved in the publication and dispensation of such 'spirtual food' would be those who actually had a part in it rather than some old woman or man who partook but did little else.
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  When or how did YHWH get pierced?

  by Tyre in

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  2. bible

  i can't found any topic in this forum about this verse.

  may be you can enlightened me.. zec 12:10 and i will pour out on the house of david and the inhabitants of jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication.

  they will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.

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  rocketman

  I recently came across this verse (Zech 12;10) while reading the NIV, and noting the odd structure (and difference between the rendering in the NIV, and many translations) and the New World Translation, I felt obliged to research it, which led me here, among other places. Leoleia's explanation and others, are very helpful. It seems as though the bottom line is that this verse is indeed very difficult to resolve, whether John's application of it is included or not.