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July 15th Study Edition Is Up..

by confusedteenager in

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not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but yeah.

they just posted up the new watchtower...with the confusing new information.. time for me to go dive into this "new light" and try to see what sense it makes.

of course cedars already nicely did a run down for us.. .

rocketman

After reading the four study articles, plus the blurb on the new GB member (who, by the way, was baptised after many of the 'Other Sheep' were and is younger than many of them). it's my thinking that this series will end up having an effect similar to the November 1995 series of study articles about the "generation" of Matthew 24:34.

This could be a 'last straw' article, much like that one was for a lot of JWs. The implications of these articles are staggering - that, once again, this religion can simply change long-held teachings whenever they deem necessary.

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Will AAWA Become another cult?

by His Excellency in

please sorry for english, i have only been learning for 18 months.

everyone please think about it, and beware of any initiative designed to solve "a community problem".

becasue russel also started his own cult on a similar premise like this , claiming to have all the answers to issues whose solutions seems obscured to the majority in his days, and here we are today, constantly bashing our fingers on the keyboard in a bid to finding comfort from the mess he had put all of us into.

rocketman

Hi Excellency, what's with 'pardon my English' stuff? Your English seems adequate.

I tend to be wary of people who use the 'excuse my English' line, because sooner or later it becomes an excuse.

As for AAWA, I personally am treading very lightly, but I don't get too excited about much of anything these days. I do think it's a noble endeavor. Could it become cultish? Well, that seems like a stretch, but I guess it could.

On Cedars' initial thread I did point out the irony of starting a group that has, as one of its main objectives, is the freeing of people from bondage to false religion. Yes, that does sound familiar, doesn't it?

But for now, I meant it only as a bit of comic relief. Only time will tell, and I say let the AAWA have at it.

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Edward Dunlap Talks About The 1980 Witch Hunt At Bethel and The Faithful And Discrete Slave

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etghbmuurwg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgmfqab2m8.

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rocketman

Interesting. So Brother Dunlap essentially, as Terry already pointed out, had this thing pegged 33 years ago. And now it's becoming official doctrine.

I will reiterate a post I made 12 days ago to a thread started by Cedars on this topic, and that is that this "new light" actually makes more sense. When I was a teenager, we had an old sister who partook and so was supposedly, back then, a member of the FDS Class. And yet I wondered how that could be the case when she (and thousands like her) never contributed anything in the way of direction or distribution of spirtual food.

So it's very interesting to find out that Ed Dunlap had that same view. And again, this new understanding makes more sense, even though it is being taken generally in ex-jw circles as a further consolidation of power by the GB. And perhaps indeed it is. Whatever the case, it's actually, in my view (and apparently in Mr. Dunlap's view as well) that this a better interpretation.

Of course, my main question now is: What took them so long?

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

rocketman

OOps, I thought that was you Cedars. Well then, Ethan Hatcher has a cool hat.

As for the cute blond, yes, I figured that was her husband next to her. Well, he married a nice-looking gal.

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

rocketman

After watching the video (which I couldn't do earlier today while at work) I have just one question:

Who's the pretty blond with the British accent?

Oh, and Cedars...cool hat!

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AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

http://www.jwactivists.org.

facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

rocketman

Interesting endeavor to watch unfold.

A wee bit of irony: A small, upstart group comes together with one its main objectives being to free people from bondage to [a] false religion. Sounds familar.

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Do other churches use the name Jehovah?

by barry in

i have seen on this site recordings of jw elders at tribunal meetings claim other churches hate the name jehovah.

one former baptist now jw elder said other churches hate the name and never use it.

please look at the following and there are many more hymns not included than these.

rocketman

I attended a Baptist service some months back and they displayed their hymn lyrics on a screen, and I was surprised to see the name Jehovah. I was not aware that they used it in songs.

It was a strange feeling, being a Witness and attending this service in a clandestine manner, and seeing the name on the screen.

Incidentally, while I liked the service somewhat, with its casual dress and informal setting (not to mention people actually playing the songs on keyboards and guitar instead of the pre-recorded songs used at JW meetings) I didn't care for the sermon much, which was overly long and placed emphasis on going to hell if we don't get saved.

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C.O. Reports: JWs/WTS "Reach Critical Mass...

by BitterTruth in

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jehovah's witnesses/wts have reached "critical mass" - says ex-circuit overseer.

------posting copied from h2o-----.

posted by xelder [seeker4] on july 13, 2000 at 12:00:52 {rn3hpwrs1eubi2tgjvegd9bhhxgwag}:.

rocketman

At first I started reading the OP without checking the date. I thought, hmmmm, this is pretty interesting.

Then I saw that it was written 12 years ago.

So much for "critical mass".

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Gumby?

by talesin in

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miss you, bro.

just in case you still lurk, i wanted to let you know.

i'm doing much better now, and no longer have the 'brother' issues.

rocketman

I miss Gumby too. I watched him a lot when I was a kid. I liked the shape of his head. I had one of those flexible Gumbys too. And a Pokey.

Oh and yes, I have wondered what happened to the member of this board named Gumby, whose head, I would surmise, was more normal-looking.

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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release

by cedars in

http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.

rocketman

One thing I will attempt to point out is that the 'change' in understanding about who attacks religion from 'the United Nations' to 'elements within the U.N.' and back to 'the United Nations' seems of little consequence. The UN is comprised of its members. When its members decide something, it is the same thing as saying that the UN decides something. The UN is not some entity that exists apart from its member nations.

I think this 'change' is merely a different use of terminology, and that it could well be termed 'elements within the UN' or 'member nations of the UN' or something of that sort at a future time.

And one more point Cedars: I don't think the charicature of you at the bottom of your articles does you any favors. It looks silly. You go to great lengths to write informative articles and then post an exaggerated comic of yourself, which, to me anyway, slightly undermines your effort.