I know this has been said time and again, but it merits repeating. Where has all the money gone? And if the WTBTS has another dozen properties yet to sell off, then alarms are going off in my head that something really isn't right here. Something must have really fell apart in the few months financially. You know how it is when you get this nagging feeling when something just isn't right. I'm no financial guy, but something is really a miss, and many a post has said it before. And you can bet your bottom dollar that WT will do everything in its power to cover over any kind of trouble it can. But sooner or later the trouble will catch up to you if you run out of money.
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Watchtower properties for sale website
by NewYork44M inhere is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.
https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.
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Am I to understand this right, sales and acquisition of halls and remodeling must now be approved by the "branch" not locally?
by LevelThePlayingField inis this the now correct understanding?
does the borg now take over even the local kingdom halls?!
what the hell?!
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Is this the now correct understanding? Does the borg now take over even the local Kingdom Halls?! What the hell?! Is this really true? Can anyone verify this? So am I to understand this correctly that they don't trust the brothers even locally enough to make a local decision as they have done for the last, what 50 years effectively and now, poof, that's gone too?! WTF>?! -
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2016 CA videos
by wifibandit indownload links (get 'em while they're hot!).
imitate jehovah-- morning.
imitate jehovah -- afternoon.
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Thank you Wifibandit! Hey in all honesty, if you think about it. Why doesn't the org provide have what you just did. I mean think about it? We all know about the poor little 'ole guy/gal that can't make it to the assembly because they are in a wheel chair or are home-bound for some reason or have heard of it, right? This is a really cool way of giving them their "spiritual food". But does he slave have a provision of doing that? NO. They do not!
Really makes you think. They are not progressive thinkers, now are they?
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Watchtower properties for sale website
by NewYork44M inhere is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.
https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.
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@sledge Hammer - thanks for posting that. If the GB have 85 Jay St for sale and people are just begging to buy for $352 million and yet the GB say they are strapped for cash, what the hell is the problem? -
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I never understood field service...
by Joliette init was always boring, and i was afraid that i was gonna get attacked by a dog.
i actually almost got attacked by a rottweiler once.
i didnt get paid for it, nobody listened to us, i actually had guys make passes at me while i was out doing street corner, i was always afraid i would get grouped and raped.
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I didn't mind field service that much. I could take it or leave. But what I did mind quite a bit was, the other publishers and especially the pioneers who would drag their feet out in service. They would walk so slow. When they finally got to the door and it was there turn to knock, they would just stand there and talk to me forever and not knock. Finally they would knock and then not knock again, but just talk and talk. Or maybe not talk, but just stand there. It would drive me nuts. I thought, are in this to help people or are you just doing this to fill time?
I really used to hate that. I thought, what a bunch of fakers. And to tell you the truth, most publishers and pioneers were just like that. That was one of the contributing factors to me waking up. I even suggested to the one of the elders about 2 months ago, said what if instead of pioneers having an hourly committment, what if it was based on the number of RV's and bible studies per month instead. He said, I bet the pioneers would really support the evening and Sunday field service more. I bet they would! Cause right now they just stick to their convienent schedules of what works for them "getting their time" and that's it. It's really hypocritical to me.
But that's just my 2 cents.
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Sorrry if a repeat
by careful inthoughts?.
http://taze.co/2015/01/31/jw-org-idolatry/.
the quotation from the 1974 km is good..
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Have the Governing Body caught themselves out in a lie?
by slimboyfat inall sorts of suspected deception going on surrounding the cutbacks and the reasons for them.
but hard to pin down a direct falsehood.
sure, they initially said they were reducing the magazines so the brothers had less to read, then later said it was to save money.
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At our hall they only planned on give about $100 more per month than the original loan. Folks here are rather poor. As far as I know from the accounts report everything is on track. -
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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F.69 A Jehovah’s Witness who no longer wants to be subject to the organisation’s rules and discipline may simply stop associating with the congregation without formally disassociating from the faith.
What a lie!
Also, where in their report did WT make ANY comments about what they want to DO about child abuse moving forward? I didn't see anything. All they had was a rebuttal. So they didn't learn anything from such a learned panel as the Royal Commission. Talk about throwing your pearls before swine.
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Watchtower's response to Royal Commission shows they have learned nothing and will do nothing
by wannaexit ini've quickly read through watchtower's submission to the royal commission.
seems like they aren't planning to change policy anytime soon.
they are critical of how the royal commission handled the situation.. the tone is of the submission is shear arrogance.
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My thoughts on the WTBTS answers to the RC. I just have to say first off. I read the whole thing and man I'm pissed! They are SO arrogant!!!! They did not agree with them on one single point. Not one!
And I want to comment on the overall tone. When you read their whole response and you get a real feel for them, you get a sense of where they are coming from, you know what I mean. Well, they are not concerned about the victims. They do not show interest in children. They do not show an interest in "continuous improvement". They were not there to learn. They were not there to brain storm. Their response was completely one sided and one sided only. Their main thought was "REBUTTAL". All they wanted to do was argue with the RC. It really sounded to me like when the 8 year old is giving mom excuses why he didn't clean his room. It's not my fault because.... Any way, here's some of my take-aways.
4.6 Child sexual abuse is a matter of concern to any right thinking parent or adult,and to see it only as an “institutional” problem would be to miss an essentialtruth: that much abuse occurs within families. The reasons why one personwithin a family might abuse another vary. That is not to say that institutionscannot be helpful in addressing the problem, but it helps to put the responseof institutions into context.- Really? is the GB trying to teach the RC here about child abuse? It's actually the other way around.
8.2 The Commission’s report will be read by many in Australia and around theworld as it would seem to be both the largest and most thorough inquiry of itstype anywhere in the world. Its views will no doubt influence futuregenerations of Australian legislators and others.- This has got the GB really scared, I think. And too bad for ya!
9.17 ...The faith is not an agency or instrumentality of governmententrusted with the responsibility for the supervision and care of children.- Good comment! Now the truth really comes out. We're not responsible.
9.367 The policies and practices of Jehovah’s Witnesses do not require anyindividual who no longer wants to be subject to their “rules and discipline” toformally disassociate themselves. They can simply stop associating with thecongregation. Such individuals are not shunned.- LIE.
9.374 For example, Mr O’Brien stated:284 “They don’t have to disassociate themselves to stop associating. They don’t lose their spiritual or familialassociation by being inactive.”- LIE #2
The RC wrote:F70 The Jehovah’s Witness organisation’s policy……. is adopted and enforced in order to prevent people from leaving the organisationand thereby to maintain its membership.
to which WTBTS replied:(e) it is an unfounded, unfair and unnecessary attack upon a voluntary faithbasedorganisation that is law-abiding and does much to promote lawfulconduct within Australia and around the world through its exertions; and(f) if the finding could not be made in a Court of law, it ought not be madeby the Commission.
If I could guess what WT will do in the end, as far as what they will actually change, then 10.4 sums it up. (nothing):10.4 Jehovah’s Witnesses have demonstrated that they make adjustments wherenecessary and within the confines of their Scriptural beliefs. Severalexamples were given during oral testimony of what Jehovah’s Witnesses areprepared to do: for example, to review procedures, to consider whetherprocedures and practices should be consolidated into one document, and toseek additional independent legal advice. -
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My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks
by umbertoecho inthrough this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.
initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.
all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.
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The Catholic's have taught their people way better than JW's. Take look at this:
Since 2002, when its current sexual misconduct policies were put in place, the archdiocese has offered training to about 70,000 adult lay workers, conducted 105,000 background checks on clergy, staff and volunteers; and provided over 100,000 children with “age-appropriate lessons to help keep them safe.’’
http://www.startribune.com/under-fire-archbishop-scrambles-to-respond/226613311/
And they say, "We're the best educated people". I think not.