Posts by LevelThePlayingField

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Any word on the annual meeting?

by careful in

have all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?

i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.

anyone have any real info on it?.

LevelThePlayingField

I bet they mention at least a word or two about not trusting the media and or apostates.

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

I just remembered this one point that elder stuck-up made. He said that now a days, even people who point to articles like a 1972 WT or something is, No we don't even consider that anymore. He said that anything we need is online, meaning the Watchtower on line library from 2000 onward, and the WT library CD ROM is being outdated.

My eyes could have busted out of my head. It's coming. The day when we don't have a leg to stand on anymore. These deluded people will believe whatever "truths" are published today. And tomorrow if it's changed they cheer.

God help us.

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

LevelThePlayingField

OK, so I met with the two elders today. I went pretty much like you all have stated, like shit. It was supposed to be a shepherding call but they didn't even pray with me. The one brother was 20 minutes late to the meeting. He rolls in and just plunks down and doesn't say anything to me at all as I am talking to the first elder. But I am making eye contact with him as though to say hello but he doesn't even look up. He just works his dumb JW.org on his tablet or whatever.

So we finally get down to business and, well, the whole meeting was two hours, but let me just give you the highlights. I ask if they believe that the brothers were involved in the United Nations. And the one elders says, I don't know. And really it doesn't matter to me. And then he went on and described all the new light that has happened through out the years. This change, that change, we get the idea. And he says this doesn't bother him a bit. He mentioned how at one time at Bethel there was Christmas. I said, yeah, that's different, because back then, the brothers didn't know any better. But here, with the UN, you have the slave railing on Christendom for their involvement in it for years and years, and then they do the very same thing! He said, "This is apostate!" I said, "fuck you!" No, I wish I did. But i just had to through that in there. Come on, you wanted a good thread right? But seriously, I just looked at him and didn't say a word. He went on and said that the Guardian news paper could have apostates working for them for all we know. I said, Oh, I never thought of that. (playing dumb)

At this point I realized what I was up against. I didn't want to loose my in wife and had better shape up quickly or they would catch on to me know the truth about the truth. So I just sat there while they went on there rant for a while. I nodded and acknowlged this and that and felt like a prostitute. But it was either that or stand up and then face a judicial committee. Sorry guys and gals, but this is the truth here. No, I wasn't some brave apostate that went in the doors with guns a-blazin'. But how I wish I could have been. If my wife was hip to TTATT I would have stood my ground no doubt.

But I saw the fear in his eyes when I asked if he wanted to see the letter with the letterhead from the UN explaining how the WT was part of the UN for 10 years ect. He didn't even want to look at it. He said anything that is negative is apostate. Anything on the news or in print so we must not even look at it. Then,...

Then he had me read Matt 4 about Jesus being tempted by the devil and he asked me, so what did Jesus do when tempted the 3 times by the devil. I replied, well, Jesus said it is written. He said, right, but, it means that he rejected it immediately. And that's what you must do when you see anything that is negative about Jah's org. Reject it immediately. I thought, this scripture has nothing to do with this scripture! WTF. I asked him do you believe news reports when they show a positive light on our org? He said Maybe. It depends... I thought, I can't believe this is happening.

All in all, I didn't feel the love at all. I felt more like I was at the police station and they were the cops and I was the trying to proclaim my innocence. They didn't show much love for me. I think, like all of you friends here on this site have warned me about, once I started asking them how they felt about the GB being part of the UN, their defensive flags went up and that held for the rest of the meeting.

Let me say this. I have been on this board/site for a couple years now. There is a lot of knowledge/wisdom to the learned from the folks that are on here. So I want to thank each one of you for your help.

When I left the meeting, both elders were both thinking that I was not an apostate. That I had just "stumbled" on some news article from the Guardian about the UN. And that I will be, well, OK and just peachy very soon, because I will reject anything that is negative about Jah's org. (yes, I did agree to this. I might have lied just a tad on this one, especially since I'm here posting this... :)

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

LevelThePlayingField

Giordano - right. I can't step away or sever the JW connection right now because of my in wife. That would crush her. Besides she has some handicaps that she needs me for and I guess for now I will just have to suffer through this.

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

LevelThePlayingField

Thanks to all for your insight into all of this. I appreciate your advice and will take that into consideration when they meet with me.

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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN

by LevelThePlayingField in

i still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.

so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.

now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.

LevelThePlayingField

I still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the UN. So the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me. Now just to let you know, I have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it. I'm not sure what to expect. I did all the research already on jwfacts.com, way back about 3 years ago and have printed off the letter from the UN of their involvement as proof to bring with me in case they ask. If they don't ask then oh well. It makes me very angry how they say how hypocritical it is for Christendom to be involved in the UN and they do the exact same for 10 years.

I will not mentioned anything else during the meeting of the hypocrisy of the WT other than the UN for fear of being called apostate. And they have no clue of me knowing TTATT for 3 years and being fully awake. My intent is just to see what they have in mind when they say they want to help me "get over it". I will play it really cool and stay away from and one liners or phrases that get people into trouble or on the radar for apostasy.

So my question to all of you friends is what do you make of this whole thing? And what do you think I should do? Do you have any advice for me? Any do's and don'ts.

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Passing ships in the night and the disobedient compassionate brother #2

by The Marvster in

hi all, i've been away from the forum for many months, perhaps 9mths?

well if you were around back then you might remember the title of this post in reference to happening upon two brothers on separate occasions and their reactions to me being 'not what i expected of jw's.

something unexpected happened a few days ago.