apocalypse - how do you know this? What's your source? I would love to go and check it out. Thanks.
LevelThePlayingField
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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jw party goes very wrong.
by cobweb inhttps://youtu.be/q6b77gm8xxi.
came across this audio recording on youtube which i found compelling.
an xjw recounts the story of how jws recently had a big party in the us.
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LevelThePlayingField
A heart breaking story. But like I told my brother in law who's not a witness and doesn't know much about them, they are no different than anyone else.
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JW Baptism
by James Mixon inhttp://abc7.com/religion/video-kid-cant-wait-to-be-baptized-/1500814/.
ok folks not a jw.lol but it would add some excitement at the assembly..
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That kid was actually happy to do so. Not the somber, gloomy lookin faces of JW comin' out the pool.
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Religion's evil folly of stigmatizing doubt.
by Island Man inpunishing doubt - theramintrees (jws get mentioned in this one.).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtzbvlg3ni.
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Thanks for posting. There were some really good points made. Like not allowing others to think for us.
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New blood cards came to our hall today
by LevelThePlayingField inat the end of the meeting an elder, by way of announcements said there is a new blood document that he said would be passed out to every baptized member of the congregation by way of their service group overseer.
i knew this day was coming, just had no idea of when.
he said it was a simplified version and sure to make you sign up for suicide.
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At the end of the meeting an elder, by way of announcements said there is a new blood document that he said would be passed out to every baptized member of the congregation by way of their service group overseer. I knew this day was coming, just had no idea of when. He said it was a simplified version and sure to make you sign up for suicide. No, not really, but he did say it was a simplified version though.
He said for all to get it signed as soon as possible and get a copy to your doctor, your power of attorney person and the, yep, congregation secretary. So, I'm sure this is coming to a congregation near you soon, that is if you still attend.
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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jws - had my meeting with the elders yesterday. My post is a ways up. They wouldn't look at a single piece of proof that I had. Told me not even to open my folder. So, so much for that.
But you know I got to thinking, now that a day has passed. Those two brothers were not interested in truth whatsoever. They were only interested that I reject and they reject immediately anything that was negative about the Society. That was their main aim. It wasn't to help poor old brother so and so. No, they had no words of comfort whatsoever. They had their guards up big time and they were in a total defensive mode the entire time.
They actually, I do believe could not care any less about evidence. One elder said, "And to me it doesn't matter" if they were involved in the UN or not. So whether the faithful slave is really faithful or not is not important to him. OK, ok then. So now I know where you stand.
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And a pdf copy of the book can be found on the Royal Commission's website at:
about two thirds of the way down the page. Just look for, "Marked-up copy of Shepherd Flock of God".
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Any word on the annual meeting?
by careful inhave all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?
i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.
anyone have any real info on it?.
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I bet they mention at least a word or two about not trusting the media and or apostates.
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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I just remembered this one point that elder stuck-up made. He said that now a days, even people who point to articles like a 1972 WT or something is, No we don't even consider that anymore. He said that anything we need is online, meaning the Watchtower on line library from 2000 onward, and the WT library CD ROM is being outdated.
My eyes could have busted out of my head. It's coming. The day when we don't have a leg to stand on anymore. These deluded people will believe whatever "truths" are published today. And tomorrow if it's changed they cheer.
God help us.
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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LevelThePlayingField
OK, so I met with the two elders today. I went pretty much like you all have stated, like shit. It was supposed to be a shepherding call but they didn't even pray with me. The one brother was 20 minutes late to the meeting. He rolls in and just plunks down and doesn't say anything to me at all as I am talking to the first elder. But I am making eye contact with him as though to say hello but he doesn't even look up. He just works his dumb JW.org on his tablet or whatever.
So we finally get down to business and, well, the whole meeting was two hours, but let me just give you the highlights. I ask if they believe that the brothers were involved in the United Nations. And the one elders says, I don't know. And really it doesn't matter to me. And then he went on and described all the new light that has happened through out the years. This change, that change, we get the idea. And he says this doesn't bother him a bit. He mentioned how at one time at Bethel there was Christmas. I said, yeah, that's different, because back then, the brothers didn't know any better. But here, with the UN, you have the slave railing on Christendom for their involvement in it for years and years, and then they do the very same thing! He said, "This is apostate!" I said, "fuck you!" No, I wish I did. But i just had to through that in there. Come on, you wanted a good thread right? But seriously, I just looked at him and didn't say a word. He went on and said that the Guardian news paper could have apostates working for them for all we know. I said, Oh, I never thought of that. (playing dumb)
At this point I realized what I was up against. I didn't want to loose my in wife and had better shape up quickly or they would catch on to me know the truth about the truth. So I just sat there while they went on there rant for a while. I nodded and acknowlged this and that and felt like a prostitute. But it was either that or stand up and then face a judicial committee. Sorry guys and gals, but this is the truth here. No, I wasn't some brave apostate that went in the doors with guns a-blazin'. But how I wish I could have been. If my wife was hip to TTATT I would have stood my ground no doubt.
But I saw the fear in his eyes when I asked if he wanted to see the letter with the letterhead from the UN explaining how the WT was part of the UN for 10 years ect. He didn't even want to look at it. He said anything that is negative is apostate. Anything on the news or in print so we must not even look at it. Then,...
Then he had me read Matt 4 about Jesus being tempted by the devil and he asked me, so what did Jesus do when tempted the 3 times by the devil. I replied, well, Jesus said it is written. He said, right, but, it means that he rejected it immediately. And that's what you must do when you see anything that is negative about Jah's org. Reject it immediately. I thought, this scripture has nothing to do with this scripture! WTF. I asked him do you believe news reports when they show a positive light on our org? He said Maybe. It depends... I thought, I can't believe this is happening.
All in all, I didn't feel the love at all. I felt more like I was at the police station and they were the cops and I was the trying to proclaim my innocence. They didn't show much love for me. I think, like all of you friends here on this site have warned me about, once I started asking them how they felt about the GB being part of the UN, their defensive flags went up and that held for the rest of the meeting.
Let me say this. I have been on this board/site for a couple years now. There is a lot of knowledge/wisdom to the learned from the folks that are on here. So I want to thank each one of you for your help.
When I left the meeting, both elders were both thinking that I was not an apostate. That I had just "stumbled" on some news article from the Guardian about the UN. And that I will be, well, OK and just peachy very soon, because I will reject anything that is negative about Jah's org. (yes, I did agree to this. I might have lied just a tad on this one, especially since I'm here posting this... :)