wt back to 1950, aw back to 1970, like the cd rom library... .
why?
lol.
If WT ever did actually change some of the things from the past online to make it seem like they never said that, I bet you the average JW would believe only what's on line, even if you showed it to them in print.
Or they would say, yeah, but they HAD to change it because that's old light now, or that was the old understanding, so that's why they've updated the new one.
WTF!
many have said that jesus never shunned anyone.
yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.
but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.
I need your help. Many have said that Jesus never shunned anyone. Yet it seems that the Apostle Paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1Co 5:9-12. It seems like shunning is what Paul wanted us to do. But honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.
So how do you know that shunning is not God's way, for those of you who still believe. How, from a biblical stand point do you reconcile this?
Cofty, if you could respond to this as well, I would much like to hear what you have to say, as I respect your in depth knowledge.
Any help would be appreciated. I have learned that the truth does not come from Jehovah's Witnesses. So I am open to what you have to say.
i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.
1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .
"rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.
Oh, here's another. From Nov 2017
source: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-42025255
After many had come forward and said they were strongly discouraged from going to the police for child sex abuse, the org said,
"The organisation said it did not "shield" abusers and any suggestion of a cover-up was "absolutely false".
Must be apostate driven lies. Wonder what God they serve? The God of the lie maybe
i am interested in getting a list of lies that the watchtower has said or wrote in the past that could actually be proven to be as such, or, for the very least, deliberately misleading.
1. in a morning worship lecture in 2015, stephen lett said .
"rejecting false stories designed to separate us from jehovah's organization.
Here's one that is right up to date. It's on their shitty website at jw.borg.
From the frequently asked questions part under Membership:
No, we do not. Resigning, or disassociating oneself, is different from becoming weak in faith. Often, those who for a time slow down or stop in their worship have not abandoned their faith but are suffering from discouragement. Rather than shunning such ones, we try to give them consolation and support. (1 Thessalonians 5:14; Jude 22) If the person wants help, congregation elders take the lead in providing spiritual assistance.—Galatians 6:1; 1 Peter 5:1-3.
However, the elders are not authorized to coerce or pressure someone to remain as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Each person makes his own choice regarding religion. (Joshua 24:15) We believe that those who worship God must do so willingly, from the heart.—Psalm 110:3;Matthew 22:37.
Now we all know that this information is pretty close to out right lying because if you stop attending meetings and stop going out in service, you WILL be shunned, it's only a matter of time.
calling all who are still "in": i need your help!.
i’m putting together a damming video with evidence of jehovah’s witnesses “organizing” the collection of data in field service – data about when people were not at home, if a child answered the door and so on.
since a leaked letter dated 2-aug-2017, where elders were instructed to destroy all house-to-house records and not tell publishers how to collect data about people not-at-home, we know that the practise has continued.. how you can help.
All this data stuff bouncing around these types of sites is getting pretty interesting. Poor old Watchtower, gotta watch their backs even more now.
from one of our informants inside the watchtower.
(same person whosent us videos from the legal dept., accounting dept., pioneer school,and so forth.
) atlantis told him that he is walking on a razors edge,to be extremely careful.his email message:1. watch tower has no right to demand you to sign a consent form.
I agree. When you have 8 million people in a database and know how many hours each of them do in the ministry every month, including and reproofs, df, appointments, ect, then you can hire some PhD's to go over the information with a fine-toothed-comb. You can get software to get algorithms to see, well like Gorby said, who is valuable to the org. To see what behaviors in the key data make one prone to apostasy. Who are the big givers of time and money in the org. The list goes on.
a thread began some 10 years ago when our friend atlantis made a pdf available of jws modern history book.
yes, that book is available on my 2015 library cd but only certain chapters.
naturally, wt eliminated certain entire chapters and you can only guess why.
That's a son of gun. I have the 2014 CD ROM and in that version there is all the chapters. Now in the 2015, you say, they took out certain chapters? They are snakes!
so here's the point regarding blood transfusions.
notice jesus asks the pharisees if it was lawful on the sabbath to save a life.
so, can you break god's law to save your life if it came to that?
Cofty - man, I don't know. You're too deep for me.
so here's the point regarding blood transfusions.
notice jesus asks the pharisees if it was lawful on the sabbath to save a life.
so, can you break god's law to save your life if it came to that?
That's a good question. I would say no he did not, because he fulfilled it.
"if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.” ― george orwell, 1984 this video is leaked in interest of human dignity; you deserve to know who is keeping personal data and how they plan to expand their nets.
open to your comments... https://youtu.be/zieprhjmolu
[videos 1 to 4 leaked as own posts, with specific comments for each video].
Fay, thanks for leaking this. This is really deep.
