Where the hell did the money go because if you read the report, the auditors said they did good in 2013. So then after that then in 2014 and especially this year is when everything must have fell apart.
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Report of the Trustees and Financial Statements for the Year Ended 31st August 2013 for Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Britain
by OrphanCrow indownloadable as a pdf here.. i did a search and couldn't find this posted on the forum.
if it has been and this is a repeat post....i apologize.. there is lots of information in that pdf that may be of interest to our members who like numbers and money and misc info pertaining to wts organizational structure, etc..
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What I would like to see soon!
by John Aquila ini would like to see one or better two members of the governing body get disfellowshipped and they both go off to write books like ray franz exposing the cult to all the sexual scandals, the hidden agendas with the stock market investments, the lawsuits, the laying of long time bethel workers, hidden sins by the higher ups and all the other nasty skeletons in the watchtower closet..
what would be different today compared to rays time is that we now live in a social media world..
they would be invited to talk in the oprah winfrey show, ellen degeneres show, the view, dateline.
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There is something wrong in WT land that is for sure John. What exactly that is, is anyone's guess. Now, if a GB member were to be like Franz and disclose all, that would be a modern miracle! I would love to see that too. I would just like to see the truth be known, that's all. And maybe that's what's under the surface. Time will tell.
Let it rain baby, let it rain.
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Did you know anyone who commited suicide in the org?
by JH inback in 1991, a young brother maybe 18 years old living next to my place committed suicide.
his father expected him to be very zealous just like he was, but the son never wanted to be like that.
he was always controlled by his father.
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Just like the OP, I knew a brother about 19 years old who hung himself over another JW girlfriend of his who broke up with him. He wrote a letter to her stating that he couldn't live with out her. The details were not stated to me at the time since I was going through the baptismal questions in 1991. I really felt bad for him. The girl simply moved on with her life. And now it's been more than 24 years since that time. If he would have not chosen suicide as an option I'm sure he would have recovered 100 times by now. I know I have suffered suicidal thoughts many times in my life due to times and situations, but have always managed to pull through. I don't know all the circumstances that surround the poor fellow. I just feel for him even now. -
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No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real
by cognitivedizzy inguys .
a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.
i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.
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Does the W.T have financial problems are are they just rebranding?
by The Rebel init is evident that the w.t has recently re-branded itself, and has become fairly modern in its marketing techniques.
so the organisation is in that respect forward thinking, and the former way of doing things has past.. .
but this rebranding has been done by marketing experts, who maybe realise progress is progress, and that with modernisation many bethelites " even as free volunteers" are possibly no longer required.
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The org will not die out. Nor is it on it's way to dying out. People keep saying this but I really don't believe this. Yes, they have been down sizing like crazy but they won't die out, here's why I say that: They may even at one point stop the school of Gilead if they can no longer afford to send missionaries into the field, but they will just spin that there are enough missionaries in the current field now and the big A is so close anyway. JW's will eat it whole with the right spin as they have with everything else. They will become essentially more electronic than they are now, more on line than they are now. Print less. That's it. Am I wrong? -
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Restructuring Bethel
by LaFrancia inan announcement to all congregation in italy :.
the project of a new bethel in italy was allocated .
the number of temporary special pioneers will be reduced significantly.
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There you have it. The writing is really on the wall. It's all about the money! -
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Not for Believers - could be hard to swallow
by The Marvster inwell now that i'm a confirmed apostate (a couple of the forum posters confirmed this today), gosh hearing myself say that is a bit frightening.... how the hell did i get to this place, well thanks to anonymity, my 'still in' family don't know this yet... .
after a whole day of watching various people describe their differences with creationist ideas, i'm finally watching this one.... it's tongue in cheek and is hilarious to watch....(this is not meant to mock people's belief in god as such, but more to do with how creationist speculation seems to go against openly available data).
i noticed that some of the arguments made by kent hovind, a creationist evangelist, smells very much like stuff i learned in 'life how did it get here by evolution or creation', and in other publications trying to explain why some phenomena in the solar system etc points to the precision in the universe = there must have been a divine hand... i assume he didn't get the information from jw's, so i wonder who jw's were getting their info from.... well thanks to sites like jwfacts, it's as clear as day anyway please don't watch if you're not ready to take in the copious amounts of data expressed to counter creationist claims... i'm only 20 minutes in and it's pretty devastating to creationist argument, the author of the video encourages each watcher to go do the math themselves where possible, stating even a high school education will give you enough tools to check out the figures and see if they add up.... (oops, that might be a problem for your die hard jw).
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I am completely open minded and I read your post. But your video is four hours long. Too long for me. -
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I'm a Pioneer Married To a Wonderful Brother Reaching Out to be an MS...
by cognac inand petrified... i just recently became a pioneer and always had nagging questions in the back of my mind.
so, i decided that when i have get a study i would research all the questions as i go along so as to prove everything in the truth... i got 4 studies in about 2 months.
all was fine, until i reached i think chapter 6 in the bible teach book about the resurrection.
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Cognac-you're a regular poster on this board now. I didn't know your story until now. Wow. You're a trooper! -
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Does it ever just hit you...It all may be a dream
by LevelThePlayingField inthat the paradise may or may not be real?
that the things you have been taught for many years from the jehovah's witnesses may not really be as they say?
has it really ever really hit you with that "pow" of reality ever?
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That the paradise may or may not be real? That the things you have been taught for many years from the Jehovah's Witnesses may not really be as they say? Has it really ever really hit you with that "pow" of reality ever? What are your thoughts? -
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CO in midwest gets pink-slipped
by LevelThePlayingField ini saw the coordinator heading for the stage and hit record on my ipad.
i was shocked but here it is.
here's my typed transcript of the letter he read:.
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I just have to laugh a little because my wife wanted to feed the CO during his stay, so we did. Well, I had a doctor's appointment that morning so I came in during their lunch NOT dress in service clothes, just jeans and a t-shirt, said hi and sat down and ate with everybody.
Well, he, the CO was giving his experiences from the field (this was before he got his pink-slip). And I thought to myself, "he's kind of bragging a bit here". But he kept on and on, experience after experience and really didn't give anyone else a chance to talk. This went on for about 20 minutes. Finally it was time for him to go. We shook hands, and he "went off to the field". Yeah!
But now, looking back, that was one of his last meals! :)
Now he's gotta cook, clean, work, do it all himself. AND one more point, in the letter it was said that they were being asked to be "reassigned to the field activity" right? Well that's a crock. All CO's are already pioneers!!